# Do you Nation State?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 13, 2006, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132 "2006-03-13T04:01:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Glassy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ea666f/32.png) [@Glassy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glassy)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/1 "2006-03-13T04:01:36Z")

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There hasn’t been a thread about this in a while. Nation States is an online game in which you get to create your own state, based upon whatever principles appeal to you at the time, and then you administer it. Every day you get an issue. Should public demonstrations be outlawed, or encouraged? Should you flourinate the water? How about surveillance cameras on every corner? Your decisions on these issues have unexpected outcomes.

I have two nations. The [Republic of Seal Rock](http://www.nationstates.net/seal_rock) is a libertarian paradise where people can basically do whatever they want. My people are happy, but crime is going through the roof. My other nation is [Gwineth](http://www.nationstates.net/gwineth), which I originally planned to have as sort of a benevolent medieval Catholic feudalist state, a la Katherine Kurtz’s \*Chronicles of Gwynedd \* books. But I seem to have turned into Iran. Is that a bad thing?

If you want to play, go to [http://www.nationstates.net](http://www.nationstates.net). ‘Tis free. And if you choose, once you’ve established your very own nation, you can move it to the region called the **Sea of Cecil** , inhabited - as far as I know - only by Dopers. Uh, at last count, very, very few Dopers. We’re dyin’ over here!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/2 "2006-03-13T04:17:00Z")

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I did for a while about a year ago. But the daily questions started repeating and I got bored with it, so I let it dissolve into whoever felt like brutally invading the place…

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/3 "2006-03-13T04:24:43Z")

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[http://www.nationstates.net/aknirts](http://www.nationstates.net/aknirts)

97% Tax rate!

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**Author:** ![FlyingRamenMonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@FlyingRamenMonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRamenMonster)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/4 "2006-03-13T04:26:35Z")

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Looks interesting, but every time I hit the continue button on the first page of making a nation it sends me back to the front page.

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**Author:** ![FlyingRamenMonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@FlyingRamenMonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRamenMonster)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/5 "2006-03-13T04:54:38Z")

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Oh, never mind. I had a profanity in the country name 😛

Behold, the [Opressed Peoples of Kanapkystan](http://www.nationstates.net/kanapkystan)! The name is mostly to deter immigrants. It’s actually a very happy, liberal place full of sunshine and badgers.

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**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/6 "2006-03-13T05:18:43Z")

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> [@FlyingRamenMonster](#):
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> Looks interesting, but every time I hit the continue button on the first page of making a nation it sends me back to the front page.

Same here, can’t seem to register a nation.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/7 "2006-03-13T05:31:56Z")

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We of the [Free Land of Twilonia](http://www.nationstates.net/twilonia), who just declared independence from a piece of mud we found around five minutes ago, are pleased to engage in this literary-based publicity stunt, basically we had stumbled upon it before in the past and read a good review of Max Barry’s latest book in _Entertainment Weekly_.

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**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/8 "2006-03-13T05:42:07Z")

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> [@Operation Ripper](#):
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> Same here, can’t seem to register a nation.

Ditto. Super dissppointed. I need something to do tonight, I’m bored.

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**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/9 "2006-03-13T05:54:39Z")

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> [@myskepticsight](#):
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> Ditto. Super dissppointed. I need something to do tonight, I’m bored.

Shall we debate the pros and cons of 19th century Manchester Capitalism? I’ve got the time.

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**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/10 "2006-03-13T06:08:52Z")

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If you pick a name that has been used it just bumps you back to the main page with nothing to let you know it was a used name.

After about a billion tries I am now the proud owner of the Holy Empire of the Island of Samantha (motto: every kitten should have her own Empire) 😃

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/11 "2006-03-13T06:16:55Z")

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How do you create a custom flag? I don’t see an option on the Create a Nation page.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/12 "2006-03-13T06:24:39Z")

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Welcome to the [Empire of Sirblahnia](http://www.nationstates.net/sirblahnia). I see that I passed the one billion population level today…woohoo!

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**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/13 "2006-03-13T06:26:46Z")

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> [@sturmhauke](#):
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> How do you create a custom flag? I don’t see an option on the Create a Nation page.

Once you create your nation, you can go to ‘customize’ and hit the browse button (obviously making a flag ahead of time) and it will upload your flag.

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**Author:** ![St\_Ides](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@St\_Ides](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St_Ides)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/14 "2006-03-13T06:29:33Z")

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Ha ha!

You will all feel the wrath of [The Armed Republic of Naugahyde.](http://www.nationstates.net/52046/page=display_nation/nation=naugahyde)

We have infiltrated all areas of western society and our sword will soon plunge in to the heart of the west.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Love](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Dr.Love](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Love)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/15 "2006-03-13T06:33:57Z")

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I am intrigued by the idea and signed up. [The Federation of The Radical Experiment](http://www.nationstates.net/the_radical_experiment). It says that private enterprise is illegal, not sure how that happened. And I wonder if the high mortality rate of the police force has anything to do with the overpopulation of carnivorous beavers in our lush forests.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/16 "2006-03-13T07:11:58Z")

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> [@Incubus](#):
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> Once you create your nation, you can go to ‘customize’ and hit the browse button (obviously making a flag ahead of time) and it will upload your flag.

Aha! Thank you. Now I present to you the [The Holy Empire of The Order of Starfall](http://www.nationstates.net/the_order_of_starfall). “True happiness lies under our iron fist.”

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**Author:** ![H3Knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@H3Knuckles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H3Knuckles)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/17 "2006-03-13T07:36:40Z")

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Thanks! nifty game idea. I am now the leader of [the Empire of Contolism](http://www.nationstates.net/-1/page=display_nation/nation=contolism) Unfortunately, I won’t be joining the Sea of Cecil with this one, but maybe my next nation.

I’ve had Gundam on the brain lately, and the idea of just what a government founded on Contolism would be intrigues me. In the old UC-timeline shows, they never really get into that, other than the fact that it is somewhat authoritarian (but not a full-on dictatorship except during Gihren Zabi’s reign of terror), Germanic, and fiercely belligerent towards the Earth Federation.

Zeon Zum Deikun’s philosophy of Contolism is pretty well established though. Earth is sacred, and mankind no longer needs to live on it to survive, so we should leave for space, and allow nature to take its course. The heavy emphasis on environmentalism, expansionism, and progressive attitudes suggests a very unique world view, IMHO. I see it as a kind of fusion of modern, socially-liberal values with a strong central government where a career-military dictator serves as executive, while elected officials make up the legislative.

Sorry, as always I’m rambling… Anyway, I made a region for Gundam-themed nations, but when this nation inevitably goes to pot, I’ll probably start a more original one and hop in the CoS. And again, thanks for showing us this game!

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**Author:** ![DataZak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@DataZak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataZak)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/18 "2006-03-13T08:00:20Z")

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Just created **Republic of Kolumpor** and moved it to the Sea of Cecil region.

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**Author:** ![Dusty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@Dusty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dusty)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/19 "2006-03-13T08:17:45Z")

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[The Grand Duchy of Franzopia](http://www.nationstates.net/franzopia).

All my 5 million little playthings love me. They have to. And behold, the graceful franzog as it frolics through my lush, environmentally stunning forests.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-nation-state/348132/20 "2006-03-13T08:41:01Z")

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The peace loving people of the Armed Republic of Iroas have undertaken the laborious and costly migration from the South Pacific to the Sea of Cecil.  
Marc

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