# Do You Support A Team That Hasn't Won A Championship Since You've Been Following Them? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 23, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393 "2018-07-23T00:13:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/61 "2018-07-26T19:01:15Z")
I’m a lifelong Astros fan, so until about 9 months ago, that counted here. Otherwise, I’m a Texas A&M football fan and a Houston Texans fan (used to be an Oilers fan, but they no longer exist). ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/62 "2018-07-27T15:15:01Z")
I root for: Chicago Cubs (since the 60s). That curse got lifted a couple years back. Green Bay Packers (since the 60s). That was never a problem (except for the Lynn Dickey years). Toronto Maple Leafs (since the 60s). I do barely recall the last Stanley Cup they won ('67). Leicester City FC (since the 90s). That was solved with the dream season a couple years ago. Foxes and Cubs in the same year; I thought I had died and gone to Heaven. Until I had to mow the grass. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/63 "2018-07-27T16:19:34Z")
I’m a Buffalo Bills fan. The last time they won the championship was 1965, the last year the season ended with two separate league championship games. I was in kindergarten. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/64 "2018-07-28T18:00:16Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m a Buffalo Bills fan. The last time they won the championship was 1965, the last year the season ended with two separate league championship games. I was in kindergarten. It should be noted that, while the season didn’t end with them, the AFL had separate champions for another four years after that. Would be interesting to have seen what the Bills could have done with the Browns that year… ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/65 "2018-07-28T18:51:07Z")
Not as of a little over a month ago! I am a lifelong Washington Capitals fan (basically as long as the franchise has existed, although I was a bit too young to remember the first few seasons), and they finally got that monkey off their back. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/66 "2018-07-28T19:18:10Z")
I don’t truly support them or follow them (not that I have anything against them; I just don’t follow the sport), but very often at the beginning of a new project my teammates will insist in trying to drag me into a conversation about soccer. When they ask what team do I support, I say Osasuna (my local professional team; currently in Segunda, they’ve never won any cups at either the national or international level; most foreigners have no idea who the fuck those guys are). There is a moment of silence and they leave me be for the rest of the project. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/67 "2018-07-29T02:36:21Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > It should be noted that, while the season didn’t end with them, the AFL had separate champions for another four years after that. > > Would be interesting to have seen what the Bills could have done with the Browns that year… They still have those games, only now they’re for the conference title. But I don’t consider it a championship unless it’s the highest level of competition that’s played in the sport. And if there had been a Superbowl championship in 1965, the Bills wouldn’t have been playing the Browns. The Packers beat the Browns in the NFL championship game that year. Both the Bills and the Packers had a 10-3-1 record in the 1965 regular season, both had been underdogs going in to the championship game, and both won their championships with a final score of 23. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/68 "2018-07-29T02:40:54Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > They still have those games, only now they’re for the conference title. But I don’t consider it a championship unless it’s the highest level of competition that’s played in the sport. > > And if there had been a Superbowl championship in 1965, the Bills wouldn’t have been playing the Browns. The Packers beat the Browns in the NFL championship game that year. > > Both the Bills and the Packers had a 10-3-1 record in the 1965 regular season, both had been underdogs going in to the championship game, and both won their championships with a final score of 23. Ooops, as usual, my ability to think in terms of seasons got challenged by the Jan/Dec issue. Yes, the Packers, who would have wiped the Bills just like they did the Chiefs and the Raiders. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/69 "2018-07-29T05:17:26Z")
> [@betterlifethroughchemistry](#): > > I’ve been fortunate to have seen all of the teams I’ve followed win a championship, but there is a caveat at the end…background, I’m soon to be 56, born and raised in Baltimore, and while I’ve lived in upstate NY for the last 19 years, we remain serious Baltimore and Maryland fans, and our grown boys (who spent their formidable years in NY) are also the same… > > Baltimore Colts (1970) > Baltimore Ravens (2001 and 2013) For the record, I was a junior in college when the Colts left town, I grew up hating the Redskins, hated the fact the Colts left, so was never a Indy fan…ever… > Baltimore Orioles (1966, 1970 and 1983) 1966 I was four, I don’t really remember them winning, I had no concept, but I do remember my father and a bunch of neighbors screaming and dancing in the street… > Maryland Terrapins BB (2002) This one was very bittersweet, my Dad was a lifelong Terp fan, passed it down to me, he went MD law school, I went to grad school there, he died in February 2002, they won about 6 weeks later… > Love Terp lacrosse, grew up playing, watching MD and Hopkins play live in the '70’s as a kid was an awesome experience…their most recent Championship (2017) was fantastic… > > So, the caveat, my boys have celebrated a couple of Ravens SB wins, the last one was great as they were 17, 19 and 24 at the time…they are also rabid Oriole fans, and I’m pretty sure the Orioles will not win another WS in my lifetime, and that’s something I’d really love to celebrate with them…yikes…they are really bad and it’s not looking good anytime soon… But Ray Lewis is a murderer… > [@bump](#): > > I’m a lifelong Astros fan, so until about 9 months ago, that counted here. > > Otherwise, I’m a Texas A&M football fan and a Houston Texans fan (used to be an Oilers fan, but they no longer exist). As a Bengals fan, I cannot say that I like the Texans. What in the world happened to Schaub anyway? > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m a Buffalo Bills fan. The last time they won the championship was 1965, the last year the season ended with two separate league championship games. I was in kindergarten. As a Bengals fan, you’re welcome for the playoff berth last season, and thank you for Cordy Glenn and Preston. Solid pickups, both of them, and in areas of need. ---
**Author:** ![ScarletNinny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ScarletNinny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScarletNinny)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/70 "2018-07-31T05:11:46Z")
The New York Nets were the last ABA champions, then were raped when they joined the NBA. In the NBA they have played their home games in Hempstead, Piscataway, East Rutherford, Newark, and Brooklyn without winning a title. The only saving grace is that the Knicks haven’t won one either. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/71 "2018-07-31T14:58:33Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > What in the world happened to Schaub anyway? In 2013, he hit a sudden, strange run of throwing pick-sixes (throwing them in four consecutive games). He then got hurt, lost the starting job, and wound up in Oakland, then in Baltimore; he kept throwing interceptions in both places (his first pass as a Raider was picked off). ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/72 "2018-07-31T15:08:02Z")
Hello. My name is Gedd. And I’m a Cleveland Browns fan. It’s not my fault. I was born with it. My family was in Cleveland for several generations. Apparently my grandfather was at the very first Browns game! Many have moved but it’s still there; my uncle heads up a Browns Backers group. My dad watches occasionally. I was never a huge fan but it pulls on me, dragging me to games . . . my wife and I have even been to one together. Why? A family member asked if we were interested. “Of course we are!” we said. But were we really? I don’t even watch football now, but I know one day, some days from now, my children will be going to Cleveland to see their first game . . . ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/73 "2018-07-31T22:14:20Z")
I’m a Cleveland fan. Go Tribe. Go Browns. Go Cavs as they head back into the NBA wilderness. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/74 "2018-08-01T00:21:20Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > It should be noted that, while the season didn’t end with them, the AFL had separate champions for another four years after that. > > Would be interesting to have seen what the Bills could have done with the Browns that year… That would have been an interesting game. The Browns lost the 1965 NFL championship game to Green Bay, but the Browns were defending NFL champions going into the game the NFL Title game was a relatively close game. ---
**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/75 "2018-08-02T14:10:58Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m a Buffalo Bills fan. The last time they won the championship was 1965, the last year the season ended with two separate league championship games. I was in kindergarten. The reason there were two separate league championship games is that there were two separate leagues. The leagues did not merge until 1970. The first IV Superbowls were games between th _ **league** _ champions. The Bills were the AFL champs in 1965. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/76 "2018-08-02T15:46:38Z")
> [@Fleetwood](#): > > The reason there were two separate league championship games is that there were two separate leagues. The leagues did not merge until 1970. The first IV Superbowls were games between th _ **league** _ champions. The Bills were the AFL champs in 1965. Yes, but his point is that the 1966 AFL Champions, while champions of the AFL, will never be remembered has having “won it all” (that year), now will they? No, because they got steamrolled by the Green Bay Packers in the “AFL–NFL World Championship Game”. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/77 "2018-08-02T16:05:07Z")
> [@Fleetwood](#): > > The reason there were two separate league championship games is that there were two separate leagues. The leagues did not merge until 1970. The first IV Superbowls were games between th _ **league** _ champions. The Bills were the AFL champs in 1965. And the World Series is played between two teams in separate leagues. But no team calls themselves the champions because they won the league title if they lose the World Series. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/78 "2018-08-04T00:30:09Z")
I became a SF Giants fan as a kid . Waited until age 50 to see them win the title. Then they won 2 more in 4 years -2010,2012,2014 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/79 "2018-08-04T01:06:00Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#): > > I’m a Cubs fan, so I know what it’s like to have a team that had never won a championship since I’d been following them. Those days are over now, of course. And my Bears won the Super Bowl when I was a teenager. Yep. Cubs, Blackhawks, Bulls, Bears…all won in my lifetime, though the Bears best be getting going again soon. Only remaining one is the Fighting Illini football and basketball teams, my alma mater. The basketball team came close but got hosed my the refs. They might get back someday. The football team is probably a lost cause, though I think I’d settle for a Rose Bowl win as good enough. Two losses in my lifetime and the stupid playoffs may rob them of another chance should they win the Big Ten again. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393/80 "2018-08-04T05:59:59Z")
I’m a Falcons fan. Enough said. Really, too much has already been said. Ignore the first 4 words of this post. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-support-a-team-that-hasnt-won-a-championship-since-youve-been-following-them/818393.md?page=3)