# Do you think Anders Behring Breivik is different than Muslim terrorists? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 27, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092 "2012-04-27T01:15:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/81 "2012-04-27T17:12:36Z")
> [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > Like the ones who were killed by Anders Breivik (Peace be upon Him) Annihilated ones during the self-defense (I never call it massacre) were secretly Muslims. I’m curious how you know this, if it was a secret. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/82 "2012-04-27T17:22:18Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Dammit, you mean we’re _all_ secret Muslims here? Where am I supposed to send my reports in, now? Psst. It’s Muslims all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/83 "2012-04-27T17:35:29Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Wait, wait, wait! Now, hang on here. Should we really just be so dismissive of the idea of murdering a couple billion innocent people? I mean, they’re dirty, right? So, you know, why not? Because then we’ll have a couple billion **dirty corpses** to deal with! Do I have to think of everything around here? ---
**Author:** ![Otkakonmiskilic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Otkakonmiskilic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otkakonmiskilic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/84 "2012-04-27T18:04:22Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > (((Armenians))) > > Mind you, there are far fewer people of Armenian descent than there should be. I am not of Armenian origin. Turks migrated from central Asia. You cannot call anyone exactly “Turkish”. People who live in the land of Turkey are generally mixed. I am just an individual who hate Islam. **It’s just that I am extremely mad at corruption, influence of Islam and religion itself. Stop saying indirectly I hate Jews or something or any specific race.** ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/85 "2012-04-27T18:07:05Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Because then we’ll have a couple billion **dirty corpses** to deal with! Do I have to think of everything around here? I think you’re supposed to burn them. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/86 "2012-04-27T18:08:01Z")
> [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > It is sad to see our opinions can be considered as trolling. You can say we are stupid, idiot, nonsense, unreasonable or whatever. You are stupid. You are an idiot. You utter nonsense. You are unreasonable. You’re also a complete twat. > [@Otak](#): > > But the worst you can is I troll or we troll. Having very different thoughts does not necessarily mean we are trolling. Being called a troll is actually a benefit to you. It means that the people calling you a troll don’t think you’re really a functionally brain dead, hate filled, vile waste of human flesh as your posts indicate you are. Take it as a compliment. ---
**Author:** ![Otkakonmiskilic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Otkakonmiskilic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otkakonmiskilic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/87 "2012-04-27T18:09:55Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > You are stupid. You are an idiot. You utter nonsense. You are unreasonable. You’re also a complete twat. Being called a troll is actually a benefit to you. It means that the people calling you a troll don’t think you’re really a functionally brain dead, hate filled, vile waste of human flesh as your posts indicate you are. Take it as a compliment. If I am really idiot or stupid, it is not my guilty. It’s genes, by nature. I accept myself as I am. It means I accept I am any bad adjective relating to my mind. Trolling indicates someone’s bad character. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/88 "2012-04-27T18:10:32Z")
> [@](#): > > …Take it as a compliment. More akin to flattery. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/89 "2012-04-27T18:13:50Z")
> [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > If I am really idiot or stupid, it is not my guilty. It’s genes, by nature. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/90 "2012-04-27T18:14:23Z")
> [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > I am not of Armenian origin. Turks migrated from central Asia. You cannot call anyone exactly “Turkish”. People who live in the land of Turkey are generally mixed. I am just an individual who hate Islam. > **It’s just that I am extremely mad at corruption, influence of Islam and religion itself. Stop saying indirectly I hate Jews or something or any specific race.** I think we have a misunderstanding here. When I agreed that you have given us something to discuss, I meant us non-bigoted non-assholes. Why don’t you go sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, because the sane people are talking now. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/91 "2012-04-27T18:15:08Z")
After we’re done killing the dirty Muslims, can we kill the stupid Norwegians, too? And people who slow down when they’re approaching a tunnel in their car? I really hate them. The world would definitely be better off without them. ---
**Author:** ![Otkakonmiskilic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Otkakonmiskilic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otkakonmiskilic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/92 "2012-04-27T18:15:23Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think we have a misunderstanding here. When I agreed that you have given us something to discuss, I meant us non-bigoted non-assholes. Why don’t you go sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, because the sane people are talking now. I don’t violate any rules by talking I guess. So, there is no reason for me to shut up and sit down. ---
**Author:** ![Otkakonmiskilic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Otkakonmiskilic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otkakonmiskilic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/93 "2012-04-27T18:16:58Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Cite? People say I am stupid, idiot, moron, and asinine. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/94 "2012-04-27T18:18:33Z")
> [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > If I am really idiot or stupid, it is not my guilty. It’s genes, by nature. > > I accept myself as I am. It means I accept I am any bad adjective relating to my mind. No, you are a pervert. You exhibit an utterly ordinary familiarity with syntax, grammar, language skills, the standard marks of a reasoning person. But you choose to pervert your reasoning, you offer twisted logic as logic. Reasoning is compromise, its how we get along, when and if we do, its how we find a way to live together, if not in harmony, at least in peace. Your neighbor is, of course, an asshole, unlike yourself, and you are compelled to make sacrifices to get along with assholes. All the major dudes tell us we have to love our neighbor. Doesn’t mean you have to like him. Just find a way to live. Difficult and tiresome, to be sure, but the alternative is so much worse. You are that alternative. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/95 "2012-04-27T18:33:04Z")
> [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > I troll you not. And you are all Muslim spy on this forum. I’m not the only Muslim on this forum, but I’m pretty sure I’m the only one who’s commented on this thread so you’re wrong there. Anyway, I’ll humor you a little and pretend I buy the idea that you’re actually from Ankarra, Istanbul or somewhere similar. What’s with the weir hatred of Muslims for someone who’s Turkish? Are you a wolf wannabe? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/96 "2012-04-27T18:36:38Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You exhibit an utterly ordinary familiarity with syntax, grammar, language skills, the standard marks of a reasoning person. I think even that’s giving him too much credit. Seriously, this buffoon makes the translator of ZeroWing look like Cormac McCarthy. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/97 "2012-04-27T18:38:03Z")
> [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > It is sad to see our opinions can be considered as trolling. You can say we are stupid, idiot, nonsense, unreasonable or whatever. But the worst you can is I troll or we troll. Having very different thoughts does not necessarily mean we are trolling. By this board’s definitions, nope, you’re not (necessarily) trolling. You’re stupid, wrong-headed, illogical, irrational, unreasonable, sociopathic (or psychopathic, I can never keep them straight), and utterly lacking in compassion, empathy, or moral rectitude, but you’re not (necessarily) trolling. > [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > Unfortunately, during the universal deceit, massacres and holocausts and genocides and murders and racism and being violent is regard as bad. Not because they are bad as a result of reasonable and logical thinking, but because your authorities impose them badly on you. **Nothing is true, including this.** Ah-hah! Your post isn’t true? You don’t believe it? Trolling. Neener-neener! C’mon, **Marley23** , use that banhammer for good, for once. 😉 > [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > You see how dirty Muslims are. And you all know how Islam is violent. Would not be the world better without them? I am serious. There would be at least 1,5 billion less people that means resources of our world would be very sufficient. Plus, there would be less conservative monsters on the world, the monsters being Muslims here. Sweetie, I live in a Republican-controlled state in the good ol’ US of A, which appears to be undergoing a Great Revival akin to the original spread of Christianity by the sword. I’ve got enough problems dealing with the fucking fundamentalists here at home, and they’re just as bad as Breivik and al-Queda. Actually, if they fucked more they probably wouldn’t be causing so many problems for the rest of us who don’t want any religion controlling our laws and our lives. > [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > I am %100 sure that people mock me and oppose me here are Muslims. They don’t admit it but they are. Like the ones who were killed by Anders Breivik (Peace be upon Him) Annihilated ones during the self-defense (I never call it massacre) were secretly Muslims. Liberal and atheist and anti-religious media, of a surety, don’t mention it. I am verily 110% sure of it. Your math is as bad as your position. Plus, aetheist here, or agnostic, depending on the wind. So your surety is worth less than your position, which rates somewhere less than pond scum. > [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > Don’t expect me to give you proofs concerning Breivik being more clever and intellectual than Muslim dudes. It is as plain as 2+2=4. You absolutely know what I mean and I know absolutely you know it. Don’t pretend liberal. You can’t prove what you don’t have yourself. And boy howdy, are you lacking. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/98 "2012-04-27T18:53:57Z")
> [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > I don’t violate any rules by talking I guess. So, there is no reason for me to shut up and sit down. But sitting down might make it easier for you to get your feet out of your mouth. Have you ever heard the saying “better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt”? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/99 "2012-04-27T19:06:27Z")
> [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > I don’t violate any rules by talking I guess. So, there is no reason for me to shut up and sit down. [Moderating] Actually, there is a really good reason for you to shut up and sit down. [From the Pit rules sticky:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=507985) > [@Ed Zotti](#): > > No hate speech > > If you say hateful and/or racist things, you may get warned or banned. Some slurs are likely to be viewed as hate speech when used as insults, some aren’t. No, we aren’t going to give you a list. Our goal is not to restrict any and all speech which could be viewed by someone as offensive, but simply keep a modicum of decency, even here. While we offer a fair amount of leeway on what constitutes hate speech, calling for genocide is about as unambiguous an example as you can find. This is a formal warning for hate speech. Your posting privileges are under review, and this thread is closed. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092/100 "2012-04-27T19:39:35Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Actively calling for genocide would be considered trolling. Simply noting that one has the odd belief that it would be a good thing to have enough lone nuts with guns shooting people, (people that the actual lone nut did not actually shoot), and that we should admire the lone nut for killing a bunch of kids who were not even culturally, ethnically, or religiously of the Middle East, is suggestive of several possible things: trolling, a separation from reality or serious confusion brought on by an abuse of drugs or alcohol or a mental trauma, or any number of other problems. > > I will let the OP explain himself before I take action against him or this thread. > [@Otkakonmiskilic](#): > > It is sad to see our opinions can be considered as trolling. You can say we are stupid, idiot, nonsense, unreasonable or whatever. But the worst you can is I troll or we troll. Having very different thoughts does not necessarily mean we are trolling. > > Unfortunately, during the universal deceit, massacres and holocausts and genocides and murders and racism and being violent is regard as bad. Not because they are bad as a result of reasonable and logical thinking, but because your authorities impose them badly on you. Nothing is true, including this. > > You see how dirty Muslims are. And you all know how Islam is violent. Would not be the world better without them? I am serious. There would be at least 1,5 billion less people that means resources of our world would be very sufficient. Plus, there would be less conservative monsters on the world, the monsters being Muslims here. I am %100 sure that people mock me and oppose me here are Muslims. They don’t admit it but they are. Like the ones who were killed by Anders Breivik (Peace be upon Him) Annihilated ones during the self-defense (I never call it massacre) were secretly Muslims. Liberal and atheist and anti-religious media, of a surety, don’t mention it. I am verily 110% sure of it. > > Don’t expect me to give you proofs concerning Breivik being more clever and intellectual than Muslim dudes. It is as plain as 2+2=4. You absolutely know what I mean and I know absolutely you know it. Don’t pretend liberal. Well, that pretty much clears up that point. If you are not trolling, you are, (risking the fallacy of the excluded middle), either too stupid or too hateful to post on the SDMB. You may want to consider a different venue to spew your bile. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-anders-behring-breivik-is-different-than-muslim-terrorists/620092.md?page=4)