# Do you think future generations will bring all these Frozen heads back to life? Why bother? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 25, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363 "2013-01-25T20:17:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/21 "2013-01-26T04:33:26Z")
Eh, it’s worth a shot. I wouldn’t lose my head over it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/22 "2013-01-26T04:56:02Z")
I’ve seen a documentary where the heads actually have come back to life. It’s called Futurama. Obama is a Muslim Kenyan, and he caused Hurricane Sandy and the Sandy Hook massacres to create a series of 9/11 events to railroad through his Marxist agenda. You can tell because they give all of these events and operational name that has the word “Sandy” in it. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/23 "2013-01-26T05:34:05Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I’ve seen a documentary where the heads actually have come back to life. It’s called Futurama. Obama is a Muslim Kenyan, and he caused Hurricane Sandy and the Sandy Hook massacres to create a series of 9/11 events to railroad through his Marxist agenda. You can tell because they give all of these events and operational name that has the word “Sandy” in it. Even without a body, Nixon is still a Dick. ---
**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/24 "2013-01-26T05:38:36Z")
After reading this [very creepy article](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1029491/index.htm) about the firm that froze Ted Williams (probably against his wishes), I’d be stunned if this company will be able to revive people even if the technology is there. ---
**Author:** ![Vicullum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/6de8d8/32.png) [@Vicullum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vicullum)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/25 "2013-01-26T05:39:24Z")
I’d say a more promising line of research is to figure out how to digitize your consciousness. Then we could dispense with all this frozen head nonsense and just upload your brain to a cloud where you could spend eternity chasing after virtual reality hookers. Or maybe download yourself to a fresh robot body for blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the blackjack. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/26 "2013-01-26T06:05:10Z")
When the year 9999 comes around, there will be a great demand for re-animated 1999-era COBOL programmers! ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/27 "2013-01-26T06:20:41Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > When the year 9999 comes around, there will be a great demand for re-animated 1999-era COBOL programmers! [There’s another way to solve problems like that.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/28 "2013-01-26T07:16:32Z")
I wouldn’t have any interest in waking up in 2355. Even if they somehow cloned me a fresh new body. I couldn’t imagine living in a world where every family member I ever knew was gone. Every friend I ever had gone. Plus my house, car, money all gone too. Maybe, somehow a person could attend college and make up for the 350 year changes that had occurred while sleeping in that Cryonics lab. But, when my time comes to die then I rather be with family and friends. Not in some foreign time and place surrounded by strangers. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/29 "2013-01-27T01:53:11Z")
We need to be putting more money into this so we can finally have unfrozen caveman lawyers ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/30 "2013-01-27T21:49:48Z")
> [@Jumpbass](#): > > Larry Niven did a few stories dealing with the ethical questions of people frozen for the future. Called them corpsicles. Old frozen people with no family, no money and no rights. They were dead. > > One story (A World Out Of Time) had the future government reviving the corpsicles for use as slaves. The main character became a long range starship pilot and rebelled. Philip Jose Farmer wrote a series called _Dayworld_ in which this issue came up, and slavery–uh, involuntary labor was involved here too, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/31 "2013-01-28T01:13:02Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Another terminally ill lady [freezing her head](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268011/Kim-Suozzi-23-head-cryogenically-frozen-reborn-cure-brain-cancer-found.html). I see from the link that she was only 23. ☹ Maybe if I have the good fortune to live to be like 95 years old, I’ll feel like I’ve lived long enough and will be okay with dying, but I can definitely understand why people who die young like this girl did would want to be preserved to have some hope of getting more time to live. Hopefully knowing that she would be frozen at least gave her some solace in the face of having been dealt a very cruel hand by life/fate. In a way, this sort of thing might serve the same purpose as religion. I think we all need to be in a certain amount of denial about the true finality of death and pointlessness of life\* to be able to stay sane and function. If believing in the possibility your head will be raised from the dead is what you need to stay sane, then I think that’s fine even if in reality it probably won’t work. \*I desperately wish that it weren’t true that life is ultimately pointless, but I have never heard an argument against nihilism that I felt was actually logically sound, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363/32 "2013-01-28T01:28:33Z")
I found her post on reddit where she was asking for funds to allow her to freeze her head. It sounds like she was fully aware that it might not work but just wanted the hope that it might. The part about how the most interesting thing she did was get a terminal disease is so sad. ☹ > [@](#): > > I caused a lot of family controversy last week by breaking the news to my parents. I can tell I’ve alienated them quite a bit as they are Christian and don’t see why I’d want to be preserved; in their mind, I am going to heaven and my “soul” will forever leave my body when I die anyway. I clearly upset both of them with the implication that I was agnostic (I didn’t say this outright, but it’s true). My mom is fairly supportive of my plans to be preserved, but unfortunately, my dad isn’t a fan of the idea, and he’s really the only family I have that could offer financial help (my parents are divorced and not on good terms). The company I’m looking into, Cryonics Institute, costs $30,000-35,000 with transportation to the facility accounted for. My boyfriend is fully supportive, but like me, he’s broke and barely out of college. > I know this is a big thing to ask for, and I’m sure many people are doubtful that preservation is plausible with cryonics. I’m far from convinced, but I would rather take the chance with preservation than rot in the ground or get cremated. The company I’m looking into, Cryonics Institute, has a good intro on their FAQ page that offers a hopeful outlook on future technology: [http://cryonics.org/prod.html](http://cryonics.org/prod.html) > A lot of people on reddit wanted to start a fundraiser for me awhile ago to aid in doing fun things before I die. I am hoping that redditors will still have some interest in helping me even if it’s not going towards vacation or skydiving and shit like that. Cryopreservation is sincerely what will bring me the most peace in death. > I wish I could give a particularly compelling reason why I deserve another chance at life, but there’s not much to say. I’m still just a kid, and hadn’t even finished college when I was diagnosed. Unfortunately the most interesting thing I have yet to do is get a terminal disease at a young age. > [@](#): > > I want to explain in a little more detail why I think cryopreservation is worth a try. (Even an expensive try). > First, I want to make it clear that I’m not betting my life on cryopreservation. I am aware of the problems with the current state of cryonics, but I have the hope that technology might come up with a solution in the future. No one knows what technology will be available in 50 years. Yes, it takes “faith” in technology, but it takes faith to assume that technology won’t be sufficient to reverse these problems someday. > The main point I want to make here is that it’s a better shot at living again than if I were decomposing somewhere or cooked into ash. The relative value of even a slight chance at living again is a huge payoff for what seems like a lot of money to me now, but probably would be an easy decision for me if I had a steady job. Compare the cost of preservation to the cost of traveling overseas to pursue experimental treatments; I think the current state of glioblastoma treatment is just as bleak (if not more), but it doesn’t seem so crazy to pursue those routes. > I’m trying to be preserved because I’ve done everything else in my power to help me extend my life. I’ve looked at essentially every diet, supplement, clinical trial, and “miracle treatment” out there. This is the last thing I can possibly do to fight for another chance, and if does happen to work, it will be incredible. > Live again or die trying. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-future-generations-will-bring-all-these-frozen-heads-back-to-life-why-bother/648363.md?page=1)