# Do you think the media has an obsession with portraying men of color overly masculine? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 25, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435 "2018-01-25T06:45:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/21 "2018-01-26T21:02:55Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > I agree on Terry Crews, cause even someone like Tony Hawk is more masculine than him. It’s probably a good thing that you’re bringing up these topics here and not in an office or social setting. I think you’d seriously creep people out. I mean, who walks around trying to decide which men are “more masculine”? ---
**Author:** ![StrTrkr777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@StrTrkr777](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StrTrkr777)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/22 "2018-01-26T21:36:19Z")
Agreed, I remembered 227 but did not want to seem like I was trying to go overboard. I had completely forgotten about Amen. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/23 "2018-01-26T22:11:03Z")
> [@digs](#): > > It’s probably a good thing that you’re bringing up these topics here and not in an office or social setting. I think you’d seriously creep people out. I mean, who walks around trying to decide which men are “more masculine”? I am sure it would be appropiate for college campuses now given the rise of identity politics. Ok, the point I am trying to make is all the bitching and whining going on about “masculinity”, the thing is in particular is just targeted at white men. Why don’t I see more shaming on other races of men? And before I continue, everytime I bring this topic up, a lot of people try to play dumb with me right away. Yes, I am all for empowering people of color, but that doesn’t mean you have to promote them as criminals, grossly obsessed bodybuilders and try to enforce them to be tough. Men of color in particular of course. Tell me: What role does the Jim Crow era play in here? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/24 "2018-01-26T22:14:24Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Ok, the point I am trying to make is all the bitching and whining going on about “masculinity”, the thing is in particular is just targeted at white men. Why don’t I see more shaming on other races of men? I’ve not seen this “bitching and whining.” Maybe it’s a Facebook thing. > [@](#): > > And before I continue, everytime I bring this topic up, a lot of people try to play dumb with me right away. (raising hand) ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/25 "2018-01-26T22:15:34Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’ve not seen this “bitching and whining.” Maybe it’s a Facebook thing. > > (raising hand) Yeah I will give you that it is more of an internet thing. What’s the “raising hand” supposed to mean? ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/26 "2018-01-27T13:34:21Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Yes, I am all for empowering people of color, but that doesn’t mean you have to promote them as criminals, grossly obsessed bodybuilders and try to enforce them to be tough. Men of color in particular of course. Can you actually post any examples of “the media” doing this? Maybe it would be helpful if you defined what you think “the media” is. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/27 "2018-01-27T13:47:16Z")
You are confusing hypermasculinity with toxic masculinity. The main difference is the the hypermasculine are not pathetic little maggots trying to pay-act as “alphas” to trick women into having sex with them. It gets worse when the unfortunate losers start to believe their gurus and then blame the women for responding like individual humans and not as sex vending machines. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/28 "2018-01-27T18:00:47Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > Can you actually post any examples of “the media” doing this? > > Maybe it would be helpful if you defined what you think “the media” is. See, exactly what i expected. Maybe I will link this article to mysogny in rap > **[Misogyny in rap music](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny_in_rap_music)** > > Misogyny in rap music is defined as lyrics, videos, or other components of rap music that encourage, glorify, justify, or legitimize the objectification, exploitation, or victimization of women. It is an ideology that depicts women as objects for men to own, use, and abuse. It reduces women to expendable beings. It might include everything from innuendos to stereotypical characterizations and defamations. > Scholars have proposed various explanations for the presence of misogyny in rap music. Some... ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/29 "2018-01-27T18:27:10Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > See, exactly what i expected. > Maybe I will link this article to mysogny in rap > > [Misogyny in rap music - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny_in_rap_music) And misogyny is a different concept than hypermasculinity or toxic masculinity. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/30 "2018-01-27T18:29:00Z")
> [@PigArcher](#): > > And misogyny is a different concept than hypermasculinity and toxic masculinity. Lol. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/31 "2018-01-27T18:32:00Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Lol. Thank you for your contribution. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/32 "2018-01-27T20:48:45Z")
> [@PigArcher](#): > > Thank you for your contribution. Sure thing buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/33 "2018-01-27T21:18:31Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Sure thing buddy. [Please take the middle finger as a joke](https://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/892954/954/19/20170815_030019ezwJO.jpg)? ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/34 "2018-01-27T21:26:30Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [Please take the middle finger as a joke](https://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/892954/954/19/20170815_030019ezwJO.jpg)? Lol, how did you find my Neoseeker page? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/35 "2018-01-27T21:46:32Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Lol, how did you find my Neoseeker page? You go by the same username and you have a thread about The Straight Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/36 "2018-01-27T21:59:02Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > You go by the same username and you have a thread about The Straight Dope. Jesus, I went to neoseekers. wtf? I’ve never appreciated the SDMB more. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/37 "2018-01-27T22:07:07Z")
If TV creates racial stereotypes, Americans should assume that most black men are doctors, lawyers, cops or President of the USA. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/38 "2018-01-27T22:22:03Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > If TV creates racial stereotypes, Americans should assume that most black men are doctors, lawyers, cops or President of the USA. They are increasingly common. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/39 "2018-01-27T22:24:16Z")
Maybe watching this video will give you more of an idea for those who are apperantly so clueless [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeGE4-7hnBg) But the funny thing is even when I want to see a general topic of hypermasculinity, black men are still always the most used, included and brought up. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435/40 "2018-01-27T22:26:44Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > But the funny thing is even when I want to see a general topic of hypermasculinity, black men are still always the most used, included and brought up. And how does that make you feel?.. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-the-media-has-an-obsession-with-portraying-men-of-color-overly-masculine/807435.md?page=3)