# Do you trust Trump and his administration?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 11, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546 "2017-02-11T16:04:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Lowdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Lowdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lowdown)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/41 "2017-02-13T17:33:05Z")

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No, but if he finds out you don’t think he’s the greatest (Sad!) he’s going to Tweet about you, and then you’ll be internet famous for a few days and nobody needs that.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/42 "2017-02-13T19:46:55Z")

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I went with ‘pathological liar’ but really it’s even beyond that. The man simply doesn’t care what’s true and what’s not. If he’s heard it somewhere and he wants it to be true, then it is, as far as he’s concerned.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/43 "2017-02-13T20:12:18Z")

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I picked “fact check” but I’m already regretting not picking “pathological liar.” I was vacillating between the two.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/44 "2017-02-13T22:48:02Z")

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A friend of mine is a psychologist. I saw her today and thinking of this thread I asked her “Do you think Trump suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder?” She said “Yes I do”. She added “Though to explain the paranoia on top of the grandiosity that Delusional Disorder might be more appropriate.” She did warn though that of course he diagnosis is based solely on observation of behaviour online and in public and she had never meet him in a clinical setting.

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/45 "2017-02-13T23:59:29Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I went with ‘pathological liar’ but really it’s even beyond that. The man simply doesn’t care what’s true and what’s not. If he’s heard it somewhere and he wants it to be true, then it is, as far as he’s concerned.

“Just remember: It’s not a lie, if _you_ believe it.” (George Costanza)

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/46 "2017-02-14T00:11:19Z")

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Is the reason you made this a public poll just to create a database of Trump supporters/sympathizers? You have to realize you’re not getting honest results that way.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/47 "2017-02-14T00:15:02Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> I would have picked the second one until yesterday, when I found the Trump Twitter archive and all the lies he’s told over the past four years were organized by topic. The birther one is really fascinating. A collection of lie after lie, and such bragging woven in between. Apparently he was the Only One who could force Obama to finally produce that birth certificate and we should all be grateful for his three year battle to finally force Obama to provide it after all this time.

Could you share a link to this? I’ve been trying to look up old Tweets of his.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/48 "2017-02-14T00:26:52Z")

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> [@Savannah](#):
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> Could you share a link to this? I’ve been trying to look up old Tweets of his.

[Trump Twitter Archive](http://trumptwitterarchive.com/#/)

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/49 "2017-02-14T01:00:53Z")

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Hell to the naw.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/50 "2017-02-14T01:08:08Z")

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I think I’m a pretty empathetic guy.

But I honestly believe that people who don’t realize Trump is a pathological liar aren’t paying close attention to politics. And, you know, bully for them. But trust those of us following the day-to-day: the guy is nuts.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/51 "2017-02-14T01:45:08Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> Keep bad mouthing him and you will be sorry

> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Is the reason you made this a public poll just to create a database of Trump supporters/sympathizers? You have to realize you’re not getting honest results that way.

According to some, it’s more likely to be the opposite.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/52 "2017-02-14T01:58:54Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> Trump doesn’t seem to have anyone one his side in here

You know who _else_ doesn’t seem to have anyone on his side in here?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/53 "2017-02-14T02:42:04Z")

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Trump is a pathological liar, true, but it’s not good to assume every single thing he says is a lie. That just allows him to use the truth as a lie. Or to weave some truth in a lie, which you then assume is fake and then get your ass handed to you.

So I went with option 2, which I 100% agree with. It’s also what journalists are learning–the stuff that comes out of the White House now has to be treated as propaganda.

That’s one favor Spicer did. He made it clear that Trump can’t be trusted. If things aren’t the way he wants, he will just lie about it. So everyone knows not to trust him.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/54 "2017-02-14T02:54:15Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> Same with Obama such as … :dubious:  
> It’s a battle for what we think. I’m just stirring it up, poor Trump doesn’t seem to have anyone one his side in here.
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> One thing I am happy about on Obama is the fence sitting he did on Syria saving thousands of military lives.

Of course he doesn’t have any support. There is no rational way to support him. That’s why you’re falling back on _tu quoque_ arguments, pretending that everyone else is the same as if that would excuse Trump.

Of course a psychopath doesn’t have support. To support him would be like supporting a murderer or rapist.

We don’t need any devil’s advocates. Stirring shit up has no purpose but to piss people off.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/55 "2017-02-14T02:58:53Z")

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> [@drm](#):
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> This is honestly the part that drives me nuts. I go back and forth on this all the time.

He knows, but he thinks that, if he argues with reality long enough, it changes things. That’s how his entire business has been run.

If he thought he was telling the truth, he would have no reason to get angry. The guy actually learned that you can lie enough that things become “true.”

It’s pretty close to stuff like The Secret or “Name it and claim it” theology.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-trust-trump-and-his-administration/779546/56 "2017-02-14T09:27:44Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> He knows, but he thinks that, if he argues with reality long enough, it changes things. That’s how his entire business has been run.
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> If he thought he was telling the truth, he would have no reason to get angry. The guy actually learned that you can lie enough that things become “true.”
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> It’s pretty close to stuff like The Secret or “Name it and claim it” theology.

The Republicans and right wingers in general are all about the “Triumph of the Will”; they think that by sheer will they can _make_ reality whatever they want it to be. Facts don’t matter, logic doesn’t matter; if you\* believe\* something is true hard enough, have enough \*faith \*that it’s true, then it is true.

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