# Do you want me to leave? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 4, 2000, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380 "2000-06-04T18:30:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/41 "2000-06-05T01:44:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > Before you start your victory dance, remind yourself that you got less than 40 responses out of a possible 6000. > \*\* Actually I think 40 replies is pretty good. How many posts get pushed to page 2 and beyond with fewer than that? Plus we all know that there are 6000 people registered but they aren’t posting here every single minute of the day. How many of those are active posters? It seems like on the weekend the number of posters diminishes greatly. \*\* > [@](#): > > And finally, there was the matter of your previous sig, which outraged the sensibilities of even the mildest poster. > \*\* Don’t you think you’re stretching it a bit Wally? So far only one person has protested that sig. I wouldn’t exactly call lswote a mild poster. This is the same person who said “Well you women have made Cecil’s job easier. He was wondering where he was going to find a group of hags he could survey about why ugly women all tend to go on the rag at the same time.” Besides, there were many others who ignored the sig line it or thought it was funny. Many of who don’t have the same beliefs as Jenkinsfan. Personally I could care less if he stays or goes. I’d like to think that we’re accepting of all people regardless of their religious or personal beliefs. If we can’t accept a person’s beliefs or just don’t like the way that person chooses to express them, why can’t we just ignore them? You aren’t going to change JF’s belief and he’s not going to change yours. You’ve embroiled yourself in a circular argument that has no possible hope of any constructive resolution. Agree to disagree and go on. ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/42 "2000-06-05T01:56:57Z")
No! But: argue a little scripture(instead of just witnessing), and post on stuff like “why I hate rutabagas”. You’re nice, but insipid & boring at times. Play a differnt tune, once. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jenkinsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cc9497/32.png) [@jenkinsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jenkinsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/43 "2000-06-05T02:14:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Some folks have mentioned tolerence. Please be kind enough to tell them what happens to anyone who even _questions_ established dogma on your home board, the LBMB. The same thing that happens here-they’re disagreed with. And we all know that disagreeing with someone isn’t cruel. BTW, these people are my friends. Attacking them is kinda low. If you’re upset with **me** then discuss **my** offense. > [@](#): > > Some folks have come to your defence because they hate to see a person put down. I admire them for it. What they have overlooked is that you don’t mind. In fact, you court it. You revel in it. No, I don’t. > [@](#): > > And finally, there was the matter of your previous sig, which outraged the sensibilities of even the mildest poster. > > The sig is gone, but your arrogance remains. I’m sorry. I won’t use that signature again. ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/44 "2000-06-05T02:24:34Z")
> [@](#): > > The same thing that happens here-they’re disagreed with. And we all know that disagreeing with someone isn’t cruel. > > BTW, these people are my friends. Attacking them is kinda low. If you’re upset with me then discuss my offense I’m not attacking anyone. Don’t put words in my mouth. And I expected a little more honesty from you. People get **banned** on your board if they question things too closely. I go there from time to time. I’ve seen it. ---
**Author:** ![jenkinsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cc9497/32.png) [@jenkinsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jenkinsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/45 "2000-06-05T02:32:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > And I expected a little more honesty from you. People get **banned** on your board if they question things too closely. > > I go there from time to time. I’ve seen it. > \*\* Tibetan Shepard, Soulfrost, Nyc Native, Drainy(When they were there),Fred, THINK HARDER, and SAGE have questioned established truths and none were banned. The ones who were banned where cast out because of the mean way they questioned other’s beliefs. If you want to, you can go there and say that you don’t believe in God-whatever, and as long as you’re respectful, you won’t get banned. ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/46 "2000-06-05T02:43:34Z")
Who decides what is “mean?” I’ve seen a couple of posters banned who in my opinion were not “mean.” Yet they were “cast out.” I’ve said my piece and I stand by every word. Two of my favourite posters, Grace and Shayna, have disagreed with me, but as far as I’m concerned, those friendships are not in jeopardy. We have opinions. That’s what this board is for. If you view a contrary opinion as an attack, that’s your problem. I’m done. Have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![lswote](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lswote/32/5737_2.png) [@lswote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lswote)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/47 "2000-06-05T03:04:50Z")
> [@](#): > > **Don’t you think you’re stretching it a bit Wally? So far only one person has protested that sig. I wouldn’t exactly call lswote a mild poster. This is the same person who said “Well you women have made Cecil’s job easier. He was wondering where he was going to find a group of hags he could survey about why ugly women all tend to go on the rag at the same time.” Besides, there were many others who ignored the sig line it or thought it was funny. Many of who don’t have the same beliefs as Jenkinsfan.** I don’t think Wally was referring to me when he spoke about “the mildest poster”. I just happened to be the person in this thread who mentioned jenkinsfan’s former sig. And as far as the remark you mention, I regret saying it because it was a backhanded insult directed at a couple particular people and I didn’t think through beforehand the fact that everyone would be offended. Something I said in the pit ended up as a thread topic in MPSIMS and I was pretty upset and tried to lash out at the people who I felt enflamed things. I realized too late I should have just taken my lumps or directed my flames unambiguously at who I was offended by, but I can’t undo the way I handled it. I have stayed off the board for awhile to let things cool down and to let myself gain some perspective on things so I hope that has some value in mitigating that situation. As far as jenkinsfan goes, I realize many people don’t think jenkinsfan’s sig line was a big deal. I guess just like former smokers are sometimes the biggest protesters of people who continue to smoke, former Christians, of which I am one, are probably the biggest protesters of Christians and are the least tolerant of arrogant positions taken by them. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/48 "2000-06-05T05:50:11Z")
> [@](#): > > Tibetan Shepard, Soulfrost, Nyc Native, Drainy(When they were there),Fred, THINK HARDER, and SAGE have questioned established truths and none were banned. :: AHEM :: Banned…but that was quite a while ago, and the ban was eventually removed. The LBMB wasn’t always the more or less open forum that it is today… One of the few things that I detest more than “in your face witnessing” is preaching to the choir. So I gotta admire your guts for coming to this “unholy den of athiest iniquity”, as one Pounder put it. You’ve got nuts. Just don’t let 'em get so big that they interfere with your brain. -David ---
**Author:** ![jenkinsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cc9497/32.png) [@jenkinsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jenkinsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/49 "2000-06-05T14:04:57Z")
Soulfrost, 🙂 This thread has served it’s purpose and as far as I’m concerned its usefulness is dead. I’ll no longer be responding to any posts here. Perhaps we got started off on the wrong foot, Wally. Hello, my name is jenkinsfan. It’s nice to meet you, Sir. I hear that you can do wonders with a signature. Maybe someday you could get me one. I’m going to spend quite a bit o’ time discussing[this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=26488). You are more than welcome to join me. I look forward to reading your future posts. God bless, jenkinsfan [Link repaired by UncleBeer - 6/5/00] ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/50 "2000-06-05T14:19:37Z")
How do you expect me to stay mad at you when you talk nice to me? You’re not playing fair. Give me a bit of time and I’ll see what I can do about a sig for you. ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/51 "2000-06-05T14:51:58Z")
> [@](#): > > psycat90 > Damn. Now I have that Clash song stuck in my head. **London Calling** ’s evil plan is working. (Should I Stay or Should I Go from Combat Rock) Soon all threads will be Clash-themed. picmr ---
**Author:** ![jenkinsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cc9497/32.png) [@jenkinsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jenkinsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/52 "2000-06-05T15:10:43Z")
[Link repaired by UncleBeer - 6/5/00] _pssst…Uncle Beer, what did I do wrong?_ ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/53 "2000-06-05T19:10:44Z")
Jenkinsfan, I’d like to add my voice to the chorus of those encouraging you to stay here at the SDMB. I saw Satan’s thread and figured that it was accurate, but so what. I think you’re a valuable contributor with a distinctive point of view. I am no particular fan of witnessing (quite the opposite, in fact), but in the robust discussions and debates we have on this board, I find it useful to hear a strong fundamentalist voice, even if I disagree with some of the opinions you express. I find your posts to be interesting and in keeping with the tone of the board. Importantly, you make your point, but do not become embroiled in trying to force others into agreement by frequent, repetitve posts. If you are not interested in sharing the type of underwear you wear (or whatever else happens to be the MPSIMS topic of the day), that’s fine with me because there are plenty of people more than willing to go into incredible detail about their prefered style, color and degree of crustyness. And frankly the persuasiveness of your religious posts is not changed a bit by whether I know that you wear boxers or briefs. On the other hand, if there are non-religious things you wish to discuss, by all means jump in. I found your soda can shooting thread interesting, and was surprised by the number of backyard shooters we have (though by now I shouldn’t be surprised at the number of people that will turn up having experience with any particular thing here anymore). Living in New York City, it’s not something that I have much chance to participate in, but maybe other common interests will come up. Anyway, I’d strongly encourage you to stick around and post however you care to. Don’t let the others get you down. Bill ---
**Author:** ![Myron\_Van\_Horowitzski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Myron\_Van\_Horowitzski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myron_Van_Horowitzski)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/54 "2000-06-05T20:50:37Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t plan on changing. And neither do we, of course. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/55 "2000-06-05T23:03:22Z")
Hi JenkinsFan, it’s Kinsey23 from the LBMB. I just registered here, and saw you were a member. I have no idea what is going on, but I hope you’ll stay. Who else from LB is on this MB? ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2000, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/56 "2000-06-05T23:19:12Z")
Jenk, this should help. You left out the quotation marks that bookend the url. Of course, you’ll not want all those square brackets; you had that part coded correctly. The quotes are the only thing that is different than UBB. It can be confusing when you are using both systems. ```auto [[]vBulletin Home Page[]( **"** http://www.vbulletin.com **"** )] ``` ---
**Author:** ![Anti\_Pro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Anti\_Pro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anti_Pro)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2000, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/57 "2000-06-06T03:01:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > \ I honestly thought that most people here hated my guts(or at least the ones who responded with such nasty insults). BTW, why are my motives constantly being questioned? You think I enjoy this?\ > \*\* I reprinted what you said, because I’d like you to re-read what you said. \*\* “Most people here hated my guts” \*\* do you honestly think it’s the majority?? Check out the number, jenkins. In any place there will be those who don’t want to listen to you, no matter what you have to say, and there will be those who will listen/think about it/laugh about it/forget about it quickly. That is life, isn’t it?? I’m not going to vote, though it’s tempting. Don’t make your decision based on criticisms.(Or praise, either, for that matter) Anyone is free not to read what ever doesn’t appeal to them, anyone is free to gripe about it.(though it ought to have been in the Pit) You should be here because you WANT to be, not because of any other reason. AND you ought not to go, unless you want to leave. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Kentzel-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2000, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380/58 "2000-06-06T17:51:24Z")
I have to agree with **Kilgore Trout** who said: > [@](#): > > this is foolish. > > decide for yourself. Presence on this board is not decided by popular vote. Stay… Go… Whatever… (I will say this: As long as you stick to witnessing, I can simply ignore you. I’m glad to see you branch out, though.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-me-to-leave/21380.md?page=2)