# Do you want the Jets in the Superbowl? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 23, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139 "2010-01-23T17:48:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/1 "2010-01-23T17:48:27Z")
As a Steeler fan, any game without the Steelers is of passing interest to me. However, I was looking forward to conference championships and a Superbowl with the best teams in the league. When New Orleans, Minnesota, and Indy made the final 4, I got very excited that maybe we might see a true championship this year where the best teams make it all the way. However, last week, when Nate Kaeding missed two key field goals, the Jets somehow continued in the playoffs. If the Jets go all the way, do you think this will reduce the importance of this year’s Superbowl? ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/2 "2010-01-23T17:56:12Z")
As a Lions fan, I don’t want Sanchez in a Super Bowl his rookie year. Then the idiots on the Lions fan board will be up in arms about how Detroit picked the wrong quarterback, completely ignoring that the Jets are a better team as a whole. I still think, long term, that Stafford will be a better QB. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/3 "2010-01-23T18:14:03Z")
> [@wmulax93](#): > > I still think, long term, that Stafford will be a better QB. Just like Orlovsky,Kitna,Culpepper,Harrington,Garcia,McMahon,Batch,Detmer,Mitchell,Majkowski,Krieg,Peete,Kramer,Ware,Gagliano and Long? Growing up around lions fans ,I heard how each of theses guys were going save the Lions, just like I’m hearing with Stafford now.Won’t even get into the long list of non-qbs that fell way short of expectations. But ,I guess if ya throw enough shit against a wall, some of it has to stick eventually. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/4 "2010-01-23T18:15:31Z")
The cynic (and conspiracy buff) in me says the Colts intentionally lost their earlier game to the Jets because the NFL wanted a playoff team from NYC. And no, I do not want to see a NYC team in the World Series, the Superbowl, the NBA Championship, or the Stanley Cup. Oh BTW, I love NY. I got my HS diploma from NY. I just don’t like any team from NYC. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/5 "2010-01-23T18:56:54Z")
Nope. Got nothing against the Jets, but I’m a loyal Hoosier, and the Jets have to lose today for my Colts to win. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/6 "2010-01-23T20:09:47Z")
I’m a long-time Jets fan. I want the in the Super Bowl, even though that will force me to break my streak of 28 years without actually watching the game. But, being a long-time Jets fan, I know it won’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/7 "2010-01-23T20:14:34Z")
> [@MadTheSwine](#): > > Just like Orlovsky,Kitna,Culpepper,Harrington,Garcia,McMahon,Batch,Detmer,Mitchell,Majkowski,Krieg,Peete,Kramer,Ware,Gagliano and Long? > > Growing up around lions fans ,I heard how each of theses guys were going save the Lions, just like I’m hearing with Stafford now.Won’t even get into the long list of non-qbs that fell way short of expectations. > > But ,I guess if ya throw enough shit against a wall, some of it has to stick eventually. I just get a different feeling watching Stafford play. And I hate the cynical way you listed past QBs. Outside of Dallas, Green Bay and San Francisco, how many teams have had MULTIPLE amazing quarterbacks? I guess one could count the Colts, but Johnny U played in a totally different era, way, way, WAY before my time AND in a different city. I guess I’ll throw it out there that I’m 28, since I referenced my own age already; this may skew my perception of things. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/8 "2010-01-23T20:26:59Z")
Amazing quarterbacks are certainly a rare thing, but serviceable QBs aren’t. Of the 16 Lions QBs that **MadTheSwine** listed, how many of them were even average in Detroit? I want the in the Super Bowl because the only alternative is having the Colts there. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/9 "2010-01-23T20:31:09Z")
I’m a Steeler fan, but would love to see the Jets win it all. I like the attitude of this Jet team. I think that Rex Ryan will turn out to be a great hire (unlike Groh, Coslet, Mangini, Carroll and Kotite). He might even become one of the prototypes for future coaches. As Mike Golic recently said, it’s quite refreshing to find a coach that doesn’t guard his playbook like it’s a state secret or something. He lets his players talk and have fun. He publicly defends his players and they play their asses off for him. He’s turned the team into a family. Plus, as a rookie head coach with a rookie QB, he’s done an incredible job. Especially after losing 2 incredibly important players in Jenkins and Washington. I still think that the oddsmakers and bettors aren’t giving this Jet defense enough credit. 8 points is way too many points to give for the Colts. The San Diego offense was a disciplined, smart, and experienced group. I read that were only flagged for 70 or so penalty yards all year. A single holding call is 10 yards, so that is truly amazing. Yet they couldn’t contain the Jet defense. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/10 "2010-01-23T20:43:33Z")
I voted no. Yes, the’ve been the surprise team this playoffs, but they’re not the Arizona Cardinals. I don’t want to be bombarded with 2 weeks of Joe Namath. I can see a Super Bowl with the Jets turning into one of those 1990s Buffalo Bills snoozefests. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/11 "2010-01-23T21:18:32Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > But, being a long-time Jets fan, I know it won’t happen. Really? If the Colts don’t win the Superbowl this year, I think the Jets will be why. They’ve got the pass defense to contain the Colts and the running game to beat the undersized Colts defense. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/12 "2010-01-23T21:20:47Z")
I hate the Jets, I hate the Colts. I guess I hate the Colts a little bit more? I hate Brett Favre too, so I’m pretty much a huge Saints fan for the next few weeks… ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/13 "2010-01-23T21:28:07Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > Nope. Got nothing against the Jets, but I’m a loyal Hoosier, and the Jets have to lose today for my Colts to win. Sadly for you, that won’t be happening. Of course, they may lose TOMORROW. ;):smack:😛 ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/14 "2010-01-23T21:34:18Z")
> [@wmulax93](#): > > I just get a different feeling watching Stafford play. And I hate the cynical way you listed past QBs. Outside of Dallas, Green Bay and San Francisco, how many teams have had MULTIPLE amazing quarterbacks? I guess one could count the Colts, but Johnny U played in a totally different era, way, way, WAY before my time AND in a different city. > > I guess I’ll throw it out there that I’m 28, since I referenced my own age already; this may skew my perception of things. The thing is, during the time frame listed for those quarterbacks, a really good quarterback would cover most, if not all, of the time frame. See, e.g., Favre in Green Bay, or Marino in Miami. And there are other teams with more than one good quarterback. See, e.g., the G-men, with Phil Simms and Eli Manning (and with Hostetler in the middle). Or reference the Cincinnati Bengals, with Kenny Anderson, followed by Boomer Esiason. Other examples exist. The Lions don’t need the Greatest Quarterback Ever. They simply need someone better than, oh, say, “Orlovsky,Kitna,Culpepper,Harrington,Garcia,McMahon,Batch,Detmer,Mitchell,Majkowski,Krieg,Peete,Kramer,Ware,Gagliano and Long”! 😛 And think about this: what other teams in the NFL can you name that, during the time span covered by that list, have not had a SINGLE decent quarterback in their employ? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/15 "2010-01-23T23:51:04Z")
Nope. Not only should I hate the Jets on general principle (being a Raiders fan) but I also hate Mark Sanchez (UCLA fan). Add in that I like Peyton Manning, and well… Not sure who I’d cheer for in a Jets/Vikings SB though. I hate hate hate Brett Favre too. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/16 "2010-01-24T00:48:09Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > As a Steeler fan, I was looking forward to conference championships and a Superbowl with the best teams in the league. Unlike, say, a certain wildcard team from 2005/2006? 😛 > [@MadTheSwine](#): > > Just like Orlovsky,Kitna,Culpepper,Harrington,Garcia,McMahon,Batch,Detmer,Mitchell,Majkowski,Krieg,Peete,Kramer,Ware,Gagliano and Long? > > Growing up around lions fans ,I heard how each of theses guys were going save the Lions, just like I’m hearing with Stafford now.Won’t even get into the long list of non-qbs that fell way short of expectations. > > But ,I guess if ya throw enough shit against a wall, some of it has to stick eventually. Most of those QB’s are/were average or above average. The problem isn’t the QB’s the Lions had…it was always usually _the rest of the team_, particularly the offensive line. When’s the last time they had a decent one worth mentioning? As an example, noodle-armed Scott Mitchell was the QB when the Lions made the playoffs in the early 1990’s…because they also had Herman Moore and Barry Sanders. > [@Enginerd](#): > > Amazing quarterbacks are certainly a rare thing, but serviceable QBs aren’t. Of the 16 Lions QBs that **MadTheSwine** listed, how many of them were even average in Detroit? > > I want the in the Super Bowl because the only alternative is having the Colts there. Most of the QB’s on that list _were servicable_. The rest of the team, from management on down…_wasn’t_. > [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > I’m a Steeler fan, but would love to see the Jets win it all. I like the attitude of this Jet team. I think that Rex Ryan will turn out to be a great hire (unlike Groh, Coslet, Mangini, Carroll and Kotite). He might even become one of the prototypes for future coaches. As Mike Golic recently said, it’s quite refreshing to find a coach that doesn’t guard his playbook like it’s a state secret or something. He lets his players talk and have fun. He publicly defends his players and they play their asses off for him. He’s turned the team into a family. Plus, as a rookie head coach with a rookie QB, he’s done an incredible job. Especially after losing 2 incredibly important players in Jenkins and Washington. > > I still think that the oddsmakers and bettors aren’t giving this Jet defense enough credit. 8 points is way too many points to give for the Colts. The San Diego offense was a disciplined, smart, and experienced group. I read that were only flagged for 70 or so penalty yards all year. A single holding call is 10 yards, so that is truly amazing. Yet they couldn’t contain the Jet defense. Only a Steeler fan would find Rex Ryan an affable, wonderful guy. He’s an asshole, so is his Dad, so is his brother (although his brother has _great_ hair). And 8 points isn’t too many for the Colts, at home, after winning 14 games in the regular season, dismantling the Ravens (and their awesome defense)…not to mention the fact that _the team they are facing wouldn’t even be there in the first place had the Colts not opted to rest their starters in the second to last week of the season!_ I’ll agree that there would be a certain amount of schadenfreude if the Jets won given the outcry over the Colts decision to basically let the Jets walk into the playoffs without resistance…but they simply aren’t as good as people are claiming. > [@appleciders](#): > > Really? If the Colts don’t win the Superbowl this year, I think the Jets will be why. They’ve got the pass defense to contain the Colts and the running game to beat the undersized Colts defense. I don’t think they do. Too many weapons, and Peyton Manning. Expect Dallas Clark to have a HUGE day while Revis pays attention to Reggie Wayne. > [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > The thing is, during the time frame listed for those quarterbacks, a really good quarterback would cover most, if not all, of the time frame. See, e.g., Favre in Green Bay, or Marino in Miami. And there are other teams with more than one good quarterback. See, e.g., the G-men, with Phil Simms and Eli Manning (and with Hostetler in the middle). Or reference the Cincinnati Bengals, with Kenny Anderson, followed by Boomer Esiason. Other examples exist. > > The Lions don’t need the Greatest Quarterback Ever. They simply need someone better than, oh, say, “Orlovsky,Kitna,Culpepper,Harrington,Garcia,McMahon,Batch,Detmer,Mitchell,Majkowski,Krieg,Peete,Kramer,Ware,Gagliano and Long”! 😛 > > And think about this: what other teams in the NFL can you name that, during the time span covered by that list, have not had a SINGLE decent quarterback in their employ? :smack: Again…the Lions have had some decent QB’s, but to a man they were all put into an almost impossible situation, that being asked to be successful with a supreme lack of talent around them, not to mention coaching and management incompetence. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/17 "2010-01-24T00:54:06Z")
I voted “No” because I picked the Colts to win, and I don’t want to be wrong. I’d definitely root for them if they make it there and play the Vikings, but not against the Saints. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/18 "2010-01-24T01:02:39Z")
I voted yes. Without a dog in the fight I generally go underdog. I like Rex Ryan and his mouth. Revis rules. Sanchez vs. Favre in the Super Bowl would be a good story. I _think_ it’ll be Saints-Colts, and that seems like a good game, but I’m rooting J-E-T-S, JETS JETS JETS! ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/19 "2010-01-24T01:10:28Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > The thing is, during the time frame listed for those quarterbacks, a really good quarterback would cover most, if not all, of the time frame. See, e.g., Favre in Green Bay, or Marino in Miami. And there are other teams with more than one good quarterback. See, e.g., the G-men, with Phil Simms and Eli Manning (and with Hostetler in the middle). Or reference the Cincinnati Bengals, with Kenny Anderson, followed by Boomer Esiason. Other examples exist. > > The Lions don’t need the Greatest Quarterback Ever. They simply need someone better than, oh, say, “Orlovsky,Kitna,Culpepper,Harrington,Garcia,McMahon,Batch,Detmer,Mitchell,Majkowski,Krieg,Peete,Kramer,Ware,Gagliano and Long”! 😛 > > And think about this: what other teams in the NFL can you name that, during the time span covered by that list, have not had a SINGLE decent quarterback in their employ? :smack: Bobby Lane! ---
**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139/20 "2010-01-24T02:22:54Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > Nope. Got nothing against the Jets, but I’m a loyal Hoosier, and the Jets have to lose today for my Colts to win. Ditto. I like the Jets. They’re fun to watch and I think they’ve got a good future ahead. If the Colts had lost to Baltimore, NY would be the team I root for. But they’re in our way now, so its time to crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentations of their women. 😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-want-the-jets-in-the-superbowl/526139.md?page=2)