# Doc Ock throwing a car.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 21, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144 "2017-05-21T14:27:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/41 "2017-05-24T17:24:56Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> The killjoy problem with super strength is that heroes are stronger than the materials they pick up. If Superman picks up an airplane there will be be a Superman sized hole in the fuselage. When heroes pick up something huge and swing it around, the object would fall apart because it can’t support its weight like that. Same reason why skyscrapers fall apart instead of falling down like trees.

I think the new explanation of Superman’s powers is he has “contact telekinesis” so he really is lifting the entire plane.

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/42 "2017-05-24T18:41:45Z")

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Threads like this are interesting to me on a couple of levels. On one level, they are often informative, and on another level, they force me to realize that I will never truly get my geek/nerd ‘bonafides,’ because i can’t even _imagine_ ever consuming my entertainment like this.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/43 "2017-05-24T18:57:47Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Heck, they’ve even got a _Science of Discworld_. How does the science behind four enormous elephants standing on the back of a titanic space turtle hold up?

_Science of Discworld_ is not that kind of book. Instead you’ve got real science essays by real scientists about real world science, with Pratchett’s DW characters throwing in what’s, in essence, colour commentary about how “this doesn’t make any sense in OUR universe, where’s the narrativium ? And how come your 1 in a million chances don’t work 9 times outa ten as they’re supposed to ?!”  
It’s kinda funny in parts, but it’s really a book in search of an audience. I, a Pratchett fan (IOW, a nerd) don’t need to be schooled on science. But people who DO need to be schooled on science aren’t going to be drawn in by a huge “Terry Pratchett” marquee on the cover.

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/44 "2017-05-24T19:16:46Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I think the new explanation of Superman’s powers is he has “contact telekinesis” so he really is lifting the entire plane.

How old are you? 😉

That was the new explanation in 1986. It’s been ignored, retconned, changed and rebooted a few times since then.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/45 "2017-05-24T19:37:50Z")

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Apparently Miller has the superpower to swoosh Straight Dope members.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/46 "2017-05-24T21:53:43Z")

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I promise only to use it for good. Ish.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/47 "2017-05-24T22:20:30Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> There’s one that’s a bit more risque called _Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex_. I’m pretty sure it had other stuff in it about superheroes.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> That’s just a single essay, not an entire book.

But it’s from 1969. It’s seminal.

Yes. That was a pretty bad pun.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/48 "2017-05-25T00:10:01Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> But it’s from 1969. It’s seminal.

I wouldn’t go that far. It’s worth a glans.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/49 "2017-05-25T01:18:08Z")

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I’m still trying to figure out why Doc threw the car at him in the first place. He wanted Peter to use as bait to draw Spiderman out, and Pete’s not much use as bait once he’s gotten smooshed flat by a flying BMW.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/50 "2017-05-25T02:26:54Z")

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> [@Annoying\_Buzz](#):
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> I thought your point was that the landing skid wouldn’t have been able to take that much force on a hand-size area and would snap.

No, my point was that if the Hulk grabbed the landing skid of a helicopter as it was flying away and pulled on it, all that would happen is he’d be doing a chin-up on the landing skid as it flew away with him.

The only way you can pull a helicopter back to you is if you brace yourself with the ground as you’re doing so. Like Captain America did in _Civil War_.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/51 "2017-05-26T01:43:34Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I wouldn’t go that far. It’s worth a glans.

Oh, what deferens does it make?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/52 "2017-05-26T01:50:48Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> Oh, what deferens does it make?

These puns will make interest in this topic peter out.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/53 "2017-05-26T03:31:09Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I remember watching an episode of the Hulk TV series. A helicopter was trying to take off. The Hulk reached up, grabbed the landing skid with both hands, and pulled the helicopter back down to the ground.

Cap does this in civil war - puny hulk.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ecks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ecks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ecks)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/54 "2017-05-26T13:33:04Z")

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The Justice League animated series was great, but I always got annoyed when, after pounding each other for a while with bare fists, someone would grab a big rock or steel beam or the like to finish the other guy off. Given that we’ve seen these guys shatter boulders and tear steel with their bare hands, this makes about as much sense as a bare knuckle boxer trying to knock out his opponent with a whiffle bat or a chunk of Styrofoam.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/55 "2017-05-26T15:07:47Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ecks](#):
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> The Justice League animated series was great, but I always got annoyed when, after pounding each other for a while with bare fists, someone would grab a big rock or steel beam or the like to finish the other guy off. Given that we’ve seen these guys shatter boulders and tear steel with their bare hands, this makes about as much sense as a bare knuckle boxer trying to knock out his opponent with a whiffle bat or a chunk of Styrofoam.

Well, if the girder is 20 times long than one’s arm, there may be an issue of mechanical advantage…

Of course, what doesn’t make sense is characters who can catch bullets standing still while watching an enemy swing a fist, or girder.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/56 "2017-05-26T20:12:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Cap does this in civil war - puny hulk.

No, Cap holds onto the helicopter with one hand and the edge of the landing pad with the other. His weight is irrelevant, as long as his arms are strong enough.

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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doc-ock-throwing-a-car/787144/57 "2017-05-30T02:32:36Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Well, if the girder is 20 times long than one’s arm, there may be an issue of mechanical advantage…
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> Of course, what doesn’t make sense is characters who can catch bullets standing still while watching an enemy swing a fist, or girder.

This is what always bothers me about The Flash. How could anyone ever lay a hand on him?

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