# \[Doctor charged with FGM- edited title ITD\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 13, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412 "2017-04-13T21:42:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/61 "2017-04-16T16:01:36Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > indoctrination runs deeper than education. Alas, true. It was mentioned before, how based on that reality she might have been working under the premise “these people will have it done anyway” and made the ethically wrongful conclusion “better to have it done under controlled circumstances than in the back alley”, rather than dissuade the families. Even sadder is that if it becomes known doctors will refuse and/or report you, then many of those families rather than giving up on the idea will instead simply stop taking their girls before health care professionals at all. > [@ivylass](#): > > It looks like there is some outrage in the [Muslim community](https://aifdemocracy.org/4142017-press-release-muslim-doctor-welcomes-arrest-demands-full-investigation-of-physician-who-mutilated-girls-in-u-s/) about this. As well it should. Though ISTM the good Dr. Jasser has a big task in front of him, I can imagine with some of the more traditionalist families/communities his effort may generate a pushback that glosses over the health and welfare of the girls to argue instead about westernizing assimilation. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/62 "2017-04-17T04:58:13Z")
> [@](#): > > She was dressed in a light-colored, matching dress and khimar, or veil, that covered her head, neck and shoulders. Quality journalism right there. Sure to report all the details that matter :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/63 "2017-04-18T17:45:43Z")
Bitch is defending herself, calling it “[religious removal](http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/249102342-story?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter).” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/64 "2017-04-18T18:36:45Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Bitch is defending herself, calling it “[religious removal](http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/249102342-story?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter).” I don’t believe she disfigures girls because she is evil, or enjoys causing pain and humiliation, I think she and the parents have ignorant religious reasons. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/65 "2017-04-18T18:51:58Z")
She’s a doctor. She should know better. I credit her with having a modicum of sense. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/66 "2017-04-18T18:59:19Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I don’t believe she disfigures girls because she is evil, or enjoys causing pain and humiliation, I think she and the parents have ignorant religious reasons. I think she(and they) know that what they did was illegal, otherwise they wouldn’t hide what they do. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/67 "2017-04-18T19:02:45Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > She’s a doctor. She should know better. I credit her with having a modicum of sense. Meh, religion is involved. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/68 "2017-04-18T19:04:26Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think she(and they) know that what they did was illegal, otherwise they wouldn’t hide what they do. Surely. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/69 "2017-04-18T19:07:42Z")
I wonder if the physician had this procedure performed on her. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/70 "2017-04-18T21:13:27Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > It looks like there is some outrage in the [Muslim community](https://aifdemocracy.org/4142017-press-release-muslim-doctor-welcomes-arrest-demands-full-investigation-of-physician-who-mutilated-girls-in-u-s/) about this. > > ISTR with Chinese footbinding, women who were not mutilated in this way were considered the lowest of the low and had to become prostitutes. Is this similar with FGM? Actually most prostitutes had bound feet. Tiny feet were a more important attribute to their sell-ability than a pretty face. Women with unbound feet were simply considered crude peasants. Their lives consisted of heavy labor and when they married it was too poor men who needed a wife that could work alongside them. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/71 "2017-04-18T21:24:26Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Meh, religion is involved. We aren’t immune. Remember Ben Carson. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/72 "2017-04-18T21:31:36Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > We aren’t immune. Remember Ben Carson. I have always suspected that many of the Christian fanatics of the type that didn’t want girls to be vaccinated against cervical cancer would probably also be in favor of this type of mutilation of their daughters if they thought it would reduce unmarried teenage sexual activity. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/73 "2017-04-20T15:03:32Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I have always suspected that many of the Christian fanatics of the type that didn’t want girls to be vaccinated against cervical cancer would probably also be in favor of this type of mutilation of their daughters if they thought it would reduce unmarried teenage sexual activity. This is pretty mean. Yeah, they did use chastity belts during the crusades, but you’re now projecting the female genital mutilation practice that is prsently carried out by Muslims and tribal people in Africa to Christians, despite any evidence that they would do such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/74 "2017-04-20T17:51:08Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > This is pretty mean. Yeah, they did use chastity belts during the crusades, but you’re now projecting the female genital mutilation practice that is prsently carried out by Muslims and tribal people in Africa to Christians, despite any evidence that they would do such a thing. It sounded to me more like rhetorical hyperbole, really, was not shocked at all. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/75 "2017-04-20T17:58:33Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > This is pretty mean. Yeah, they did use chastity belts during the crusades, but you’re now projecting the female genital mutilation practice that is prsently carried out by Muslims and tribal people in Africa to Christians, despite any evidence that they would do such a thing. Chastity belts were mostly a [myth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chastity_belt). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/76 "2017-04-20T18:10:31Z")
Update: [One of the girls is being allowed to return to her parents, with conditions.](http://www.postbulletin.com/news/local/around-the-state-girl-in-mutilation-case-allowed-back-with/article_219ec95e-39c7-56c2-929c-ab7ecef690d5.html) ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/77 "2017-04-20T19:29:25Z")
She was seven. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: Quite frankly, I think \*\*Spice Weasel \*\*should adopt her. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/78 "2017-04-20T19:44:41Z")
How long has that culture been doing this? Surely they killed children right and left until they got the procedure figured out. We’re talking about making incisions with pieces if metal found on the ground. ---
**Author:** ![48Willys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/db5fbb/32.png) [@48Willys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/48Willys)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/79 "2017-04-21T01:14:28Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > She was seven. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: > > Quite frankly, I think \*\*Spice Weasel \*\*should adopt her. X2! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412/80 "2017-04-21T02:06:30Z")
> [@48Willys](#): > > X2! What does it mean, “X2!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-charged-with-fgm-edited-title-itd/784412.md?page=5)