# "Doctor, I think I've caught. . . PORNOGRAPHY!"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 19, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659 "2004-11-19T14:52:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/81 "2004-11-20T02:03:32Z")

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> [@Ninja Pizza Guy](#):
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> You ain’t the only one. I actually had someone tell me that “only queers and dykes eat pussy.” …

If true, this is most disturbing news.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/82 "2004-11-20T02:39:10Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Five hundred? That’s _it_? That’s not a “porn addiction,” that’s somebody who’s disabled his email filters for ten minutes.

Jezu, I know a very nice guy with something like 100 gig of fairly hard BDSM porn on his computer, and another 100 gig of downloaded BDSM movies :eek: I would love to have a drive with 100 gig of space…

But if you met him you would adore him, he is funny, and cheerful, and sensitive, and sweet, and has no problem interacting with people, and in general has very vanilla sex. Just every now and then he likes to get a little pain from his girlfriend. His flat is very nicely decorated, nothing particular there that would hint at his occasional predelliction for pain other than one brief case of toys.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/83 "2004-11-20T02:47:13Z")

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> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> Don’t you think there may be a middle ground between Victorian prudery and the present situation where any 12-year-old can sit down at a computer in a public library and pull up a picture of a woman eating feces out of another woman’s rear end?

“a picture of a woman eating feces out of another woman’s rear end?”

Uh-huh.

You don’t say.

Right.

Y’know something, porn doesn’t just pop up on a screen when you turn on a computer, it really doesn’t. Moreover, I really doubt that the average 12-year-old knows such images exist or can get to them through a library’s filtering software. Shit, I’m 43, I’ve been using the Internet since 1995, and I’ve never found anything of that sort on any porn site I’ve been to.

In short, bullshit.

As far as a 12-year-old looking at pics of men and women fucking, why not? I guarantee you that the 12-year-old’s jacking off already.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/84 "2004-11-20T03:35:08Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> I’ve never found anything of that sort on any porn site I’ve been to.
> 
> In short, bullshit.

It isn’t bullshit. Either you aren’t looking hard enough or you are too smart to look hard enough.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/85 "2004-11-20T03:40:28Z")

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Trust me, **gobear** , it’s out there. You name it, it’s out there. Of course, I saw it on a Live Journal community dedicated to finding truly bad porn, so I don’t know fi that counts…

But then again, tubgirl ain’t that hard to find…

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/86 "2004-11-20T04:06:16Z")

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Please, for the love of God, no links…

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/87 "2004-11-20T07:37:34Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Hmmm…I don’t know how they manage that. Looking at images of naked women will turn a man gay?  
> 😕

It’s religion; it’s not supposed to make sense.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/88 "2004-11-20T07:42:25Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Trust me, **gobear** , it’s out there. You name it, it’s out there.

I find it’s easiest to assume that _anything_ is erotic to somebody, and a porn version of it exists somewhere on the internet.

I mean, just today I was introduced to men-being-kicked-forcibly-in-the-crotch erotica… \>\_\< And even after seeing it for myself, I still couldn’t believe it. Compared to that, eating poo out of someone’s butt is rather predictable…

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/89 "2004-11-20T08:02:22Z")

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> [@TroubleAgain](#):
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> I’ll agree that you can be addicted to porn, but it’s as others have said–it’s the person, not the object. You can be addicted to just about any damned behavior, whether it’s healthy or not. I know a heterosexual male who’d rather surf porn than have sex with his attractive and available wife. ::shrug::

And you haven’t introduced me to her because… 😉

Well, they can’t keep kiddy porn from circulating on the net, so I can’t see how they think that they can keep _all_ porn from circulating on the net. (Though, frankly if they can block anorexic/bulemic porn and kiddy porn from circulating, I’ll not complain.)

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/90 "2004-11-20T10:52:08Z")

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Here’s the thing, though. I’m reasonably web-savvy, and I researched a lot of companies on the internet 5 years ago when I was a Y2K expert. Yes, Google brought up some search results which clearly had nothing to do with the equipment at the plant I was working at, and there was no way I would click on them at work, but I’ve actually seen hardly any porn on the internet. I know the stories. My own father was looking for an electronic device called “Grab It” or something similar and made the mistake of typing “Snatch It” into a search engine. While I was doing that Y2K work, a female coworker was trying to find a place called Chick’s Saddlery on line, so she went to [chicks.com](http://chicks.com).

On the other hand, before the internet, we had libraries with back issues of _National Geographic_, gothic romances, popular novels, anatomy textbooks, and books on human sexuality. Have you people read gothic romances? I don’t like the things, but, when I was a teenager, the descriptions of sex were enough to entertain me for months. When I came across some of the stuff on the best seller list, it was even better, although, prude that I was in those days, I would not have admitted it. Instead, I was shocked.

What is a pornographic image, anyway? If she means a naked human body, I’ve hung out naked in a hot tub with a group of people and, for the life of me, I can’t remember what the bits I normally wouldn’t see look like, even on people I know well. There’s been stuff on TV or at the movies which has made a reasonable impact at the time, but now I don’t remember any of the details. Of course, I am absent minded. 😉

I’ve no doubt there are people who get so hooked on pornography that it fouls up their lives. There are also people who drink alcohol to excess and people who eat chocolate to excess. I’ll be hanged if I’ll let the prudes among us deprive me of either.

As for the person who said, “only queers and dykes eat pussy”, this is going to come as a surprise to some straight men I know. If he’s male, I feel sorry for any woman he gets involved with. I also wonder how he feels about receiving oral sex.

Sheesh, people! I’m a devout Christian and I was rather prudish, but sex is good and fun! It’d better be – from what I’ve heard, pregnancy is no fun, so it seems there should be an incentive in it somewhere! 😉 Even when it isn’t readily available in real life, thinking about it sure beats thinking about the laundry or even reading a good detective novel. We are hardwired to enjoy certain touches and sensations, some more than others, varying by individual. Yes, there’s a time and a place for doing so, but that’s true of most things. I love music and I’ll be singing Handel’s _Messiah_ in a few weeks. There’s no way you’ll here me practicing it at work, though, because that’s not appropriate. (OK, in some situations, the _Hallelujah Chorus_ might be.;))

I don’t know!

CJ

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/91 "2004-11-20T12:07:29Z")

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(Little hijack)

> [@Siege](#):
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> I love music and I’ll be singing Handel’s _Messiah_ in a few weeks. There’s no way you’ll here me practicing it at work, though, because that’s not appropriate. (OK, in some situations, the _Hallelujah Chorus_ might be.;))

You are? I fell in love with Händel’s “Messiah” when I was still a child and I think that by now I know the whole work by heart. Do you sing in the chorus or as soloist?  
(And why never threads about “classical” music in cafe society?)

(/end hijack)

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Netbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71e660/32.png) [@Netbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Netbrian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/92 "2004-11-20T12:46:23Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> Y’know something, porn doesn’t just pop up on a screen when you turn on a computer, it really doesn’t.

Actually, having worked in technical support for the last several months, it actually seems like this does indeed happen. Various forms of spyware can be rather aggressive with having porn pop-up on your screen. At this point, I’m sure they can’t all be excuses.

We’ve also dealt with a piece of malware nicknamed the “gay porn virus” going around campus. I swear I am not making this up.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/93 "2004-11-20T16:50:42Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Isn’t that a hallmark of the modern neocon methodology? It’s like a magic trick, where they wave their right hand in full view and shout “homo god pray porn jesus” so the target demographic doesn’t notice how the left hand is shoveling the nation’s treasury into corporate coffers.

“It is significant that whenever the public mind is to be diverted from great social wrong, a crusade is inaugurated against indecency.”

- Emma Goldman

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/94 "2004-11-20T16:54:19Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> To put it another way, if “pornography addiction” is a public health issues, then so is getting Hooked on Phonics.

_Hooked_, dude. _Hooked_.

(And it’s not Hooked on Phonesex either, though it probably should be.)

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/95 "2004-11-20T18:14:22Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> “It is significant that whenever the public mind is to be diverted from great social wrong, a crusade is inaugurated against indecency.”
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> - Emma Goldman

You mean things like the way the War in Iraq could be said to be going other than planned, except for the fact that it’s pretty obvious that there was no plan to begin with? Nah, couldn’t be. Or maybe that the Republicans squeeked by in this election, but have played the results like they won 200 million to 2? Or that “moral values” is such a vague and catchall phrase as to be meaningless, and that most of the news analysis of the recent election haven’t given a detailed breakdown of why people voted the way they did? Other than saying things like: The War in Iraq. Which could mean nearly anything, since there’s no context provided for it. Wow. If what you’re saying is true then that would mean politicians have **lied** to us! I’m shocked! Shocked! To hear such a thing.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/96 "2004-11-20T19:02:30Z")

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> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> Don’t you think there may be a middle ground between Victorian prudery and the present situation where any 12-year-old can sit down at a computer in a public library and pull up a picture of a woman eating feces out of another woman’s rear end?

I hope I am the first to call “bullshit” on this one. Cite?

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/97 "2004-11-20T19:02:37Z")

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> [@LilyoftheValley](#):
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> Ok, why does going to prostitutes have anything to do with looking at porn? 😕
> 
> I’d like to hear her examples of what would be effective ads against strip clubs or prostitutes.
> 
> My idea:
> 
> _Don’t get hooked on hookers!_
> 
> …accompanied by a picture of a scrawny female in thigh-high red leather boots, butt-cheek-baring skirt, and tube top. She’s got her long red fingernails dug into an innocent man’s leg, pulling him back as he vainly tries to grab on to the concrete sidewalk. In the background a pimp with a gold tooth in a purple suit and feather boa grins.
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> (Hmmm…on second thought, this ad might not have quite the desired effect. 😉 )

How idiot savantic of her!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/98 "2004-11-20T19:09:09Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> I hope I am the first to call “bullshit” on this one. Cite?

Others have called bullshit.

However, that sites dediced to scat exist is hardly a revelation.

I would only question whether public libraries really don’t have filtering in place to block such sites.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/99 "2004-11-20T19:16:21Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> I hope I am the first to call “bullshit” on this one. Cite?

Of course, it’s against the board rules to link to stuff like this.

But I can assure you I have seen feces-eating porn on the internet, although I don’t recall seeing the particular scene described by **Hyperelastic**.

A sick friend of mine sent me a short flick where a guy squeezes out a big log into a woman’s mouth. I have no doubt in my mind that this was not simulated.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/100 "2004-11-20T19:19:24Z")

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I guess _somebody_ has to say it: “Thank you for sharing that with the group.”

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