# "Doctor, I think I've caught. . . PORNOGRAPHY!" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659 "2004-11-19T14:52:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/141 "2004-11-23T01:01:57Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Look, this just doesn’t happen. There is no great porn epidemic infecting the nation’s libraries. _Most_ libraries nowadays have some kind of filtering technology and I have never witnessed anyone bypass the system at my library. > > And before the filters I made it my business to make sure no one was looking at porn. I caught several teens (15-18), but teens like the naked ladies, I don’t think this is a shock. The system in your library sounds fine. I can accept that there is not a general problem with kids looking at porn in libraries. Unfortunately, my problem is now with the library I actually go to, whose policy clearly states that they will not filter or monitor anything a kid is doing on a computer. _That_, I have a problem with. I know they’re telling the truth, that they really _don’t_ monitor the computers, because their own rule against playing games is being broken on about 80% of their computers every time I go there. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/142 "2004-11-23T02:01:06Z")
> [@iamthewalrus(:3=](#): > > Within the last few years (possibly before the passage of the 2003 law tying federal money to filters), the public library in Santa Rosa, CA, where I grew up, made a big show of installing privacy screens on all the computers. You can’t see through them at an angle of more than 15 degrees or so. This was done so that people looking at porn wouldn’t expose children to it, because there were no filters on the computers. To be fair, this problem preceded the Internet. I remember being in a library about 20 years ago, and I saw a copy of “Dancer of Gor” in the juvenile reading section. It has a scene where the titular dancer’s virginity is auctioned off – to 17 different guys. She spends the night chained in an alcove, giving it up while chained in different positions. Not juvenile reading at all. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/143 "2004-11-23T02:03:23Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > Unfortunately, my problem is now with the library I actually go to, whose policy clearly states that they will not filter or monitor anything a kid is doing on a computer. _That_, I have a problem with. I know they’re telling the truth, that they really _don’t_ monitor the computers, because their own rule against playing games is being broken on about 80% of their computers every time I go there. What does this mean? > [@](#): > > The “Wetlands” computer workstation area offers Internet access through a portal of safe sites for kids. Also in this area are updated and expanded interactive and educational CD-ROM products on topics such as math and geography. From the link to your library, Children’s Services page. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/144 "2004-11-23T08:29:55Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > To be fair, this problem preceded the Internet. I remember being in a library about 20 years ago, and I saw a copy of “Dancer of Gor” in the juvenile reading section. It has a scene where the titular dancer’s virginity is auctioned off – to 17 different guys. She spends the night chained in an alcove, giving it up while chained in different positions. Not juvenile reading at all. ObOtherBugbear: Of course it’s a kid’s book. It’s fantasy. The mostly naked big-tittied woman portrayed on the cover in a sexually subservient position notwithstanding. (No, I haven’t read the book - but I do know Gor cover art.) ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/145 "2004-11-23T21:54:18Z")
[News from Florida](http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=BRF%20Library%20Adult%20Ban) > [@](#): > > ORLANDO, Fla. – Libraries in Orange County have barred unaccompanied adults from lingering in the children’s areas of its 14 branches, a policy that is among the first of its kind in the nation. > > Since Nov. 1, adults without children may select items in the children’s section, but they cannot read books or loiter in the department, said Marilyn Hoffman, community-relations coordinator. Will that allay your fears **Hyperelastic**? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/146 "2004-11-23T22:50:27Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > ObOtherBugbear: Of course it’s a kid’s book. It’s fantasy. The mostly naked big-tittied woman portrayed on the cover in a sexually subservient position notwithstanding. (No, I haven’t read the book - but I do know Gor cover art.) This particular one had a cover of a dancing girl in a pretty standard belly dancing outfit dancing before some guys. [Here’s the cover in question](http://www.jollyroper.com/nobondz/harem/gordance2.jpg) I think you can see why it wouldn’t set off any alarms. Unusually clothed, for a Gor novel heroine. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/147 "2004-11-23T23:38:27Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > This particular one had a cover of a dancing girl in a pretty standard belly dancing outfit dancing before some guys. [Here’s the cover in question](http://www.jollyroper.com/nobondz/harem/gordance2.jpg) I think you can see why it wouldn’t set off any alarms. Unusually clothed, for a Gor novel heroine. I figure someone might want to know that this link was flagged as PORN by the filtering system at my library. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/148 "2004-11-24T01:12:29Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I figure someone might want to know that this link was flagged as PORN by the filtering system at my library. My site is registered with RSAC, so I imagine it’s contents are, too, though there’s a lotta stuff on it that isn’t really pornographic. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/149 "2004-11-24T02:19:22Z")
Porn is the WORST form of “entertainment” on the planet. First of all, it leads men to believe that badly played brass “jazz” is sexy, cool, hip and appropriate music to bonk by. Secondly, it leads men to believe that women just hang around in minidresses with little or no underwear on waiting to be bent over a desk or operating table, never MIND how She may want to do it. Third, it leads men to believe that shoving it straight in and out for the entire sexual encounter will cause a woman to collapse into screaming ecstacy. Why can’t they use some finesse and imagination? And 86 that crappy, CRAPPY music? Why can’t they have some realistic sound effects? PUH lease, who makes noises like that when they’re getting it on? If Donna Summer can do it, surely they can find someone who actually sounds as if they’re enjoying themselves rather than undergoing midieval torture. And the people? God, speaking of torture, these people suck worse than an “After School Special” at acting, and they look like drug addicts someone found on skid row and ran under the shower once or twice, then caked on 5 pounds of maybelline, and that’s just the MEN! Maybe these church people aren’t really against porn cuz of the morality, but as a cry of protest against the slap in the face to the whole sexual revolution it is… Bet you never thought of that huh…Huh??? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/150 "2004-11-24T07:04:48Z")
Heh, **Canvas Shoes** , as my sister said earlier today, “Men get off on porn, women critique it!” ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/151 "2004-11-24T08:00:12Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Heh, **Canvas Shoes** , as my sister said earlier today, “Men get off on porn, women critique it!” Heh heh. You know? It’s been since the 80s that I’ve even seen one, and it was horrible then. Since that time I’ve accidentally caught a few blue movies on cable while channel surfing, and stopped to see if it was as bad as I remembered it. I think it was worse, if that’s possible. Same really, really bad boppy sounding cornet music, same cheesy looking sets, same ugly clothing and herion addict actors. It’s a zillion dollar industry, come ON people, you can afford wardrobe, some Metallica, or GnR CDs, acting lessons, non zomboid actors. Let’s GO!! You want us to protect y’all from the fundies, ya gots to give us something to work with!!! Don’t get me started on the not even as classy as “Hustler” rags. Geez guys, whyncha get a damn fiber optic camera and just take a pic of our INSIDES huh? That’s the only way you’ll get more up close and personal with girls’ nether regions than you are now. I mean, I like an attractively done nude as much as the next person, but that AIN’T pretty. (okay, so I’m a hetero girl and likely am missing the attraction :D) ---
**Author:** ![TonyF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@TonyF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonyF)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/152 "2004-11-24T08:22:09Z")
Psh! Someone so unfamiliar with porn has no basis to critique it. 😃 You women keep quiet about the porns and we’ll try to keep quiet about _Lifetime_, _Whose Wedding Is It Anyway_, etc. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/153 "2004-11-24T08:28:28Z")
> [@TonyF](#): > > Psh! Someone so unfamiliar with porn has no basis to critique it. 😃 > > You women keep quiet about the porns and we’ll try to keep quiet about _Lifetime_, _Whose Wedding Is It Anyway_, etc. 😛 Tsk tsk…Tony, Tony, Tony. You’re missing the point dear! See, if it were Good, perhaps, WE’D want to watch it too. Not to mention be more motivated to protect it’s production. [ducky]Hmmm?? hmmm???[/ducky] And then, who KNOWS what dickens we might get up to? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/154 "2004-11-24T08:29:58Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > protect it’s production Dammit! I did it again, I KNOW that it’s its. But apparently my typing fingers don’t. grrr ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/155 "2004-11-24T11:42:34Z")
Recently, in a thread about the Desperate Housewives ad, a supporter of the condemnation of ABC was quoted as saying “How do I explain it to my 6 year old?” It was the same bullshit excuse people used when they were all driven insane by a glimpse of Janet Jackson’s Evil Nipple of Doom. “My 7 daughter saw it! It was the context! My 7 year old daughter can not understand a nipple during a halftime show. Now what do I tell her?” Do you want to know how to explain it to 6 and 7 year olds? Use words that they understand. Make sure they’re even asking the question you think they are. Don’t get all hysterical and hyperventilate and scream about how your child was damaged by a sexy ad or a nipple glimpse. That is NOT the way to explain it to any child. Fucking parent your own kids you lazy, puritanical, hysterical overreactors. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/156 "2004-11-24T11:44:15Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Recently, in a thread about the Desperate Housewives ad, a supporter of the condemnation of ABC was quoted as saying “How do I explain it to my 6 year old?” It was the same bullshit excuse people used when they were all driven insane by a glimpse of Janet Jackson’s Evil Nipple of Doom. “My 7 daughter saw it! It was the context! My 7 year old daughter can not understand a nipple during a halftime show. Now what do I tell her?” > > Do you want to know how to explain it to 6 and 7 year olds? Use words that they understand. Make sure they’re even asking the question you think they are. Don’t get all hysterical and hyperventilate and scream about how your child was damaged by a sexy ad or a nipple glimpse. That is NOT the way to explain it to any child. > > Fucking parent your own kids you lazy, puritanical, hysterical overreactors. Ooops! This was supposed to be it’s own thread. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/157 "2004-11-24T13:20:16Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Do you want to know how to explain it to 6 and 7 year olds? How hard is it to explain the concept of “stupid showoff stunt” to a 6-year-old? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/158 "2004-11-24T13:31:30Z")
> [@Steve MB](#): > > How hard is it to explain the concept of “stupid showoff stunt” to a 6-year-old? “Sometimes, honey, when grownups appear on national television, it makes them … stupid.” ---
**Author:** ![Bongmaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Bongmaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bongmaster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/159 "2004-11-24T20:36:56Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > One can get addicted to anything, but the problem lies with the person, not the object of the addicition. You enjoy drinking and gambling; shall we deny drinking and gambling to everyone because a few people might have a problem? Unfortunately in this day and age, yes. The list is endless…any pleasure one person can enjoy another sees as evil incarnate. People need to learn to stay the hell out of other people’s lives and let each person make their own choices and mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659/160 "2004-11-24T21:07:22Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > Why can’t they use some finesse and imagination? And 86 that crappy, CRAPPY music? Why can’t they have some realistic sound effects? Yeah, but “Ow! You’re on my hair!” ain’t exactly erotic, is it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-i-think-ive-caught-pornography/275659.md?page=9)