# Doctor tells Obama voters to get lost **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776 "2010-04-02T21:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/41 "2010-04-03T16:56:23Z")
Make sure you go to a cardiologist’s office to do that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/42 "2010-04-03T17:15:27Z")
> [@descamisado](#): > > After UHC takes effect, you can also say “I just got gmmint-run health insurance and I’m gonna use that shit _just because_. Can you take a look at this hang nail?” Are you serious? I was making a joke. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/43 "2010-04-03T17:17:16Z")
I forgot to add the smiley in Post 40. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/44 "2010-04-03T17:56:05Z")
> [@redtail23](#): > > I saw this earlier on another site; my reaction is “meh”. I do think this is very unprofessional. In fact, it strikes me as rather childish. > > I believe that this is a perfect opportunity for the mighty Invisible Hand. I know I’d be finding another urologist. I pretty much agree with that. Personally, I would not go to a doctor who posted such a sign even if I agreed with his politics. ---
**Author:** ![Wheeljack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@Wheeljack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheeljack)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/45 "2010-04-03T18:31:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The really sad part is that he’s an excellent doctor. Before opening his own practice he was the head surgeon at Florida Hospital Waterman, which is about as good a facility as boondocks hospitals get. Dude, this dipshit is doing enough PR damage around here without you making it worse. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/46 "2010-04-03T18:34:02Z")
I’d go. Me: I’m here as a patient. And I voted for President Obama. Dr. Cassell: Did you read the sign? Me: Yup. But I know you can’t refuse to take me as a patient, so your sign is pretty irrelevant to me. Dr. Cassell: Umm. All right, then, how can I help you today? Me: I’ve come to see you about this hangnail. Dr. Cassell: You do realize that I’m a urologist, yes? Me: I know. I peed on it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/47 "2010-04-03T19:25:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Strictly speaking, he’s not turning anyone away; he’s just encouraging them to go elsewhere. Hence my OP - he’s not really violating the Hippocratic oath, or the Florida Medical Associations’s ethics rules, or the law; he’s just being a tool. I dunno, I’d say posting a sign telling Obama voters to seek care elsewhere is in fact turning them away. Its nice that he won’t actually turn them away if they come in, but that fact is basically a secret to anyone who shows up at his door and reads the sign. Plus if you’re driving a car with a bunch of “Obama ‘08’” bumper stickers, are you really going to try and force the issue and get the guy to start operating on your tender bits despite the fact that its against his stated wishes. My doctor is pretty right-wing while I voted for Obama and supported the Health Care bil, and we occasionally discuss politics while I’m there. But I certainly don’t have any problem receiving treatment from him, because I’m quite confident that he can keep his feelings about my political opinions out of hi s work. If he starts posting signs around his office telling Obama voters to take a hike, I certainly wouldn’t have the same confidence in him. I have trouble believing the Florida Medical Association will let this go. It makes the profession look bad. ETA: from the AMA code of Medical ethics > [@](#): > > Under no circumstances should physicians allow their differences with patients or their families about political matters to interfere with the delivery of high-quality professional care. (I, VII) I’d say the sign breaks this rule. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/48 "2010-04-03T19:42:53Z")
> [@Wheeljack](#): > > Dude, this dipshit is doing enough PR damage around here without you making it worse. What? I said you have a good hospital. With a minor qualification. > [@Simplicio](#): > > I have trouble believing the Florida Medical Association will let this go. It makes the profession look bad. The FMA has been pretty outspoken about its own opposition to the HCR bill, so they’re probably quietly cheering him on. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/49 "2010-04-03T20:30:39Z")
Oh, he’ll be a hero all right – the Freepers are all sucking his dick over this. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/50 "2010-04-03T21:05:36Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I have trouble believing the Florida Medical Association will let this go. It makes the profession look bad. They have to. To get involved would make them “liberals.” The problem is that it only makes the profession look bad _to Democrats_. Republicans think the guy is a hero. So if the FMA gets involved, they have to pick a side, are their Democrats or Republicans? ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/51 "2010-04-03T21:16:09Z")
There’s no reason they need to identify as republican or democrat. How about just “an organization with some integrity with regards to its rules”? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/52 "2010-04-03T21:39:39Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > They have to. To get involved would make them “liberals.” > > The problem is that it only makes the profession look bad _to Democrats_. Republicans think the guy is a hero. So if the FMA gets involved, they have to pick a side, are their Democrats or Republicans? Yea, I don’t really see ‘not having doctors make their patients walk past a sign that says “your not welcome here” to 52% of the population’ as a partisan issue. I’m sure some folks will try and spin it like that (including the urologist in question) , but I don’t think they’ll get much mileage from it. Especially since, as already mentioned, the FMA was against the Health Care bill in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/53 "2010-04-03T22:15:11Z")
> [@ntucker](#): > > There’s no reason they need to identify as republican or democrat. How about just “an organization with some integrity with regards to its rules”? Nope, it would be nice, but nope. He was turning away Democrats. To scold him would make the FMA Democrats. It’s pure partisan politics. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/54 "2010-04-04T00:13:43Z")
The easiest thing to do would be to report the guy to the Board for medical ethics violations, citing the rule above. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/55 "2010-04-04T00:22:21Z")
> [@](#): > > MOUNT DORA — A doctor who considers the national health-care overhaul to be bad medicine for the country posted a sign on his office door telling patients who voted for President Barack Obama to seek care “elsewhere.” Good for him!! Considering that Obamacare will more than likely destroy his practice, I say kudos to him for having the balls to stand up for himself. His actions are highly ethical and instead of pissing, moaning and whining like the lot of you are, you should be applauding him for them. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/56 "2010-04-04T00:28:03Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Good for him!! > > **Considering that Obamacare will more than likely destroy his practice,** I say kudos to him for having the balls to stand up for himself. > > His actions are highly ethical and instead of pissing, moaning and whining like the lot of you are, you should be applauding him for them. Explain. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/57 "2010-04-04T00:43:09Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Good for him!! > > Considering that Obamacare will more than likely destroy his practice, I say kudos to him for having the balls to stand up for himself. > > His actions are highly ethical and instead of pissing, moaning and whining like the lot of you are, you should be applauding him for them. And it begins… ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/58 "2010-04-04T01:22:44Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > Only if you tip them well. I can’t - I’m Jewish. I guess this moron took the Hypocritic Oath. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/59 "2010-04-04T01:34:55Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Good for him!! > > Considering that Obamacare will more than likely destroy his practice, I say kudos to him for having the balls to stand up for himself. > > His actions are highly ethical and instead of pissing, moaning and whining like the lot of you are, you should be applauding him for them. Y’know, Obamacare is now a law. Passed by Congress, signed by the President. If in fact, the health care law will destroy his practice, it’s a done deal. How does his refusal to treat people who voted for Obama anything other than a petulant temper tantrum that violates his Hippocratic Oath? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/60 "2010-04-04T01:46:37Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > His actions are highly ethical and instead of pissing, moaning and whining like the lot of you are, you should be applauding him for them. I don’t know why I’m bothering to ask, since your political posts are invariably drive-bys, but in what possible sense are his actions “highly ethical”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776.md?page=4)