# Doctor tells Obama voters to get lost **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776 "2010-04-02T21:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/81 "2010-04-04T19:20:03Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > [http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010\_04/023191.php](http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_04/023191.php) Good lord, it’s the homo debate all over again. “It’ll ruin American lives and families! …Why will it? …It _just will_, okay?!” ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/82 "2010-04-04T19:22:20Z")
You guys don’t understand. Obama has just made it somewhat less likely that the good doctor will be denied payment from an insurance company. You can’t just go around taking away a doctor’s right not to be paid and expect him to be okay with it. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/83 "2010-04-04T19:25:43Z")
> [@BrightNShiny](#): > > You guys don’t understand. Obama has just made it somewhat less likely that the good doctor will be denied payment from an insurance company. You can’t just go around taking away a doctor’s right not to be paid and expect him to be okay with it. It’s damnable pride, that’s all. “I, Dr. Jack Cassell, take greater pride and earnest in my allegiance to party politics than I do in my oath to medicine.” I wouldn’t go see the guy even if his front door said, “Teabaggers: take your bag and spout elsewhere.” ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/84 "2010-04-04T19:49:49Z")
I don’t understand how you can say: > [@Clothahump](#): > > His actions are highly ethical When Simplico already cited the AMA rule: > [@](#): > > Under no circumstances should physicians allow their differences with patients or their families about political matters to interfere with the delivery of high-quality professional care. (I, VII) which is from their Medical Code of Ethics. This Code of Ethics for physicians says otherwise, does it not? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/85 "2010-04-04T19:50:18Z")
Well, maybe a specialist in urology might have a special expertise for teabaggers. Does the specialty apply to the dangling boys in the wrinkled suits? ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/86 "2010-04-04T20:04:03Z")
My guess is that the guy is a total hypocrite. He’s in Florida, I’ll bet he doesn’t turn away Medicare patients on the grounds that it’s socialized medicine. I’ll bet he makes a fortune from overcharging the aged – he’s a urologist. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/87 "2010-04-04T20:14:23Z")
If you truly, truly believe that this is the wrong direction for America, you could maybe consider the act _moral_ (although depending on how one interprets one’s holy book of choice, I’m sure that’s up for grabs too). But there’s no way it’s _ethical_, as it goes against his profession’s code of conduct. Morality and politics are a bad, bad mix. It’s part of why things are so dysfunctional in American politics right now. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/88 "2010-04-04T20:19:25Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I like this doctor. 🙂 Why? Because he shares your political beliefs or because he’s an unethical, asshole of a doctor? Is that what you look for in physician about to stick his finger up your ass, or a long tube up your urethra? Which makes me wonder if it’s yet another thing I’m unaware of: Do people currently pick their doctor based on their political leanings? ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/89 "2010-04-04T20:21:11Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > My guess is that the guy is a total hypocrite. He’s in Florida, I’ll bet he doesn’t turn away Medicare patients on the grounds that it’s socialized medicine. I’ll bet he makes a fortune from overcharging the aged – he’s a urologist. More likely a case of turning Medicare patients away cause he’s not getting paid, period. Many [other HC providers are doing the same](http://www.yourwestvalley.com/articles/mayo-9326-clinic-medicare.html) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/90 "2010-04-04T20:37:12Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, maybe. Some people will be suspicious of a doctor who insists on being paid in Euros… Once Obama has fully implemented his evil plan of North American monetary union, we’ll all be paying in Ameros! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/91 "2010-04-05T00:24:47Z")
I doubt that this guy is really all that worried about Obamacare. Do you really think he’s that dumb? My guess is he figured that putting up a sign like this would be a good way to garner attention and possibly a gig on Fox News. Also, he may lose a few liberal-leaning patients, but I’m sure he’ll get more than enough teabaggers to make up for them. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/92 "2010-04-05T00:42:48Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > I doubt that this guy is really all that worried about Obamacare. Do you really think he’s that dumb? > My guess is he figured that putting up a sign like this would be a good way to garner attention and possibly a gig on Fox News. Also, he may lose a few liberal-leaning patients, but I’m sure he’ll get more than enough teabaggers to make up for them. And the magical hand of the free market just made his rates go up. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/93 "2010-04-05T02:09:41Z")
I don’t have any info to make me think he is that calculating. He is just a guy with a 350,000 dollar job that thinks his opinions should trump those of his patients. He will help educate those unwashed people who don’t know how great the American Health care system is. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/94 "2010-04-05T03:24:03Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I think it will. If Obamacare is not obliterated, I think that we are going to see a tremendous shortage of doctors. People just aren’t going to go into the profession any longer because they won’t be able to make a living at it. As I mentioned earlier, currently doctors can refuse to take Medicare. They won’t be able to refuse to take Obamacare. In addition to **Really Not All That Bright’s** point, I have to wonder, then: if this were true, why wasn’t the entire medical industry (or at least doctors) universally against the bill? Were so many of them THAT blinded by partisan ideology that they were willing to lose their livelihoods rather than speak against the bill? (Note that I’m not saying that there were no doctors who opposed it; obviously, there are plenty. I’m saying that if what you say above is true, there should’ve been _near universal_ opposition, and everything I’ve seen says that opinions in the medical profession were split fairly evenly.) ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/95 "2010-04-05T03:49:56Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I’m saying that if what you say above is true, there should’ve been _near universal_ opposition, and everything I’ve seen says that opinions in the medical profession were split fairly evenly.) Well, obviously the Democrat doctors are partisan lunatics who’ll vote for anything their grand and glorious leader tells them to without checking on the facts. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/96 "2010-04-05T15:11:42Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > [http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010\_04/023191.php](http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_04/023191.php) > > By way of _Washington Monthly_, connecting to Alan Colmes (late of _Hannity and His Bitch_), this interview outake… > > Offered without comment, none being necessary. Uhhh, OK, so he is “mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore”, but doesn’t know what he’s mad about, except that he’s mad about something, whatever it is? Here’s my vote, that he’s just another uninformed idiot. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/97 "2010-04-05T15:22:11Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Yes indeed ,there are just no immediate effects of the health care law . The doctor just knows ,like Clothahump. > That is unless you count > > 1. You can not be denied coverage for pre existing conditions The “noise machine” is dead set against that. > [@](#): > > 1. Your health carrier can not drop you if you get sick and actually need what you paid for The “noise machine” is definitely dead set against that. I mean, imagine insurance having to pay off, instead iof dumping the policy. > [@](#): > > 1. new health plans are required to provide free preventative care .No copays or deductibles You pick your own primary care doctor Wasn’t one of the wild claims, that Big Gubmint would be telling people what doctor to go to? Guess they were wrong. > [@](#): > > 1. no lifetime limits on coverage The “noise machine” is definitely dead set against that. I mean, imagine insurance having to pay off, instead iof dumping the policy. > [@](#): > > 1. small businesses get a tax cut to help pay for employees health coverage.Full credit if you employ 10 or less workers But to hear some people tell it, we’ll see businesses destroyed, and then bread lines, and then doom. > [@](#): > > 1. insurance companies must allow you to appeal denial of care and get an independent review Guess they don’t like that. > [@](#): > > 1. Insurance companies are required to spend 80-85 percent of their revenues on medical care, not advertising ,salaries and lobbying. -if they fail, they must give customers a rebate I thought rebates and tax refunds and getting money back was a good thing. As for the percentage, a health insurtance company should be working mostly on health insurance (and not bonuses/salaries and lobbying). If too much of the money is going in “the suits” pockets or the politician’s pockets (lobbying) then personally I wanna shop for another company. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/98 "2010-04-05T15:28:36Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > How, in fact, is a sign on his front door urging people who voted for Obama and are in need of urological care to go away not in violation of his oath? He’d be a lot more ethical if he simply retired. Violation of his oath would be refusing to treat them. He is not doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/99 "2010-04-05T15:31:19Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > I welcome logic, and am still waiting for it’s injection. > > This isn’t a _liberal_ anything, this man is not your hero. He is a fucking hack of a doctor, and a jerk of a person. You can accept that, and acknowledge that, regardless of who is he refusing to treat. > > So here I am, bent over and ready for logic: No, you’re simply bent over and ready for the next load of liberal BS. The point has been made several times that he is not refusing to treat anyone. > [@](#): > > “I’m not turning anybody away — that would be unethical,” Dr. Jack Cassell, 56, a Mount Dora urologist and a registered Republican opposed to the health plan, told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. “But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it.” But, hey - why let facts get in the way of good, old-fashioned liberal hysterics? ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/100 "2010-04-05T15:38:06Z")
Yoohoo, Clothahump… while you’re here > [@DianaG](#): > > Please explain to me, in some detail, what aspects of this law are going to destroy his business, and how. Thank you in advance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776.md?page=6)