# Doctor tells Obama voters to get lost **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776 "2010-04-02T21:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/121 "2010-04-05T22:12:46Z")
No surprise here: the doctor doesn’t even know what the health reform plan actually does. [http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/05/florida-doctor-colmes/](http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/05/florida-doctor-colmes/) ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/122 "2010-04-05T22:16:22Z")
I’m starting to think neither does Clothy. The last time I was this surprised, the sun had risen in the east. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/123 "2010-04-05T22:46:47Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > The ethics rules he would need to worry about are those from his state medical board, Ah, I see. That was what I was thinking of, the licensing authority, which is not the AMA. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/124 "2010-04-05T22:53:03Z")
First Joe the Plumber, and now Jack the Urologist… Gotta love the heroes of the Right’s fixation with fixing your pipes. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/125 "2010-04-06T03:07:27Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Okay, since this is the pit, and I just got back from a brewery tour, I’m about to tell it like it is. How unfortunate. > [@](#): > > This sums up so perfectly what is currently wrong with America Yes, free speech is a heavy burden to bear. > [@](#): > > If you noticed a lack of conservative posts to this thread it’s because the email hasn’t gone around to tell them what to say yet. But come Monday, we’ll have a string of attacks telling us it’s this guy’s _right_ to accept or reject who ever he wants. Or it could be that there’s little point in posting in most threads on the 95% raving liberal SDMB. OK,now we get to the meat and potatoes. > [@](#): > > So conservatives, here is your chance. Take a stand, and declare this guy a douche. I think he’s behaving dishonourably with respect to his profession, and his medical ethics are not sound. You’ll forgive me if I pass on using the gutter language of “douche” in this case; I’m sure I’ve used it in the past, but I don’t care for it nonetheless. > [@](#): > > Ignore what Hannity and Ann Coulter tell you. Done, and done. > [@](#): > > Delete the email they tell you to forward. OK! > [@](#): > > Acknowledge that what this guy did was shitty, regardless of the fact that you are also happy he stuck it to Democrats. But I’m **not** happy that he stuck it to “Democrats.” Does that make me evil now, because I didn’t fit into your wicker man? > [@](#): > > You fucked it up with O’Keefe because you were so happy he was taking down ACORN. Don’t fuck up again this time. Just like O’Keefe, there is a pretty good chance this guy is also going to do another stupid thing within a year. And given that he’s a urologist (and not just a shitty pretend journalist) do you really want to have him as your poster boy? What the devil does this have to do with this thread? When did I lionize this O’Keefe person? Who the fuck is O’Keefe? OK, now it’s your turn. You are now mandated to take a stand and declare the demonization of conservatives on this message board to be a shitty thing to do, and to call those who do so douches. I fully expect to see you do this in every thread on this message board where this occurs, or else I will ask why you have refused to do so. See how this works? Work on your message to make it more logical and you won’t open yourself up to this. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/126 "2010-04-06T03:08:59Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I would invoke the “Random Jerk” rule: the actions of a random jerk are not politically significant, his views are not worthy of examination, and any time spent discussing him is time better spent gathering wildflowers. That is the most intelligent, fair, and balanced thing you’ve posted on this message board in probably 5 or 7 years. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/127 "2010-04-06T03:12:51Z")
Its more likely just the closest I’ve come to something you agree with. I have not gotten any smarter, I assure you. I can offer expert testimony on that. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/128 "2010-04-06T03:19:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Its more likely just the closest I’ve come to something you agree with. I have not gotten any smarter, I assure you. I can offer expert testimony on that. Well, I’ll agree to agree and raise a virtual glass of my home made rhubarb wine to you. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/129 "2010-04-06T04:00:53Z")
Gee whiz **Una** , who pissed in your cheerios today? You could at least try not to perpetrate the very same type of illogical straw-man overgeneralizations you claim to be offended by: > [@Una Persson](#): > > Or it could be that there’s little point in posting in most threads on the 95% raving liberal SDMB. Uh, right. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/130 "2010-04-06T05:33:17Z")
I’ve said this before, but if I knew nothing else about a health care change I would consider the fact that doctors disapprove of it to be a sign it’s a good idea. It’s the same logic I use if I hear lawyers oppose a change in the legal system. These guys are the insiders - if they think the status quo is benefitting them, then it’s screwing the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/131 "2010-04-06T12:39:13Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Gee whiz **Una** , who pissed in your cheerios today? You could at least try not to perpetrate the very same type of illogical straw-man overgeneralizations you claim to be offended by: > > Uh, right. :rolleyes: And I don’t know who wiped their arse on your toasted tea cake, to continue your breakfast analogy. Really - to deny that the SDMB is overwhelmingly, predominantly liberal is to be so facetious or so clueless that there’s little point in talking to you. In the real world - outside of the world of the basement-dwelling radicals, college students, and facebook ninjas - the message of the average politically-oriented thread on the Straight Dope Message Board is so radically liberal as to be unrecognizable to the average person. You’ll note if you take a second that I didn’t castigate the SDMB for being 95% raving liberal. But I won’t engage in ducking and weaving like Cassius Clay in his prime to deny the fact. Nor, like Clay, will I pull punches when I have a point to make. I’ll note you didn’t raise any objection at all to the silliness of a demand that conservatives must stand up and post their declaration that this guy was a “douche” or else we fail some sort of intellectual honesty test. Or how about that shithead a few days back who claimed all conservatives on this board were “complicit” in the “crimes” of “teabaggers” if they didn’t snap to attention and post repudiations on this message board - IIRC of all the SDMB only John Mace told him he was being stupid. These cries for conservatives, with no qualifiers or intelligence behind the cries, to stand up and declare some sort of position statement on someone’s timetable, are silly, ignorant, and indefensible. It’s silly and ignorant and indefensible the other direction, too. And yes, from time to time I have the ability to browse the SDMB for fun instead of work, and when I do so I will post what I see fit to post. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/132 "2010-04-06T13:05:10Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > In the real world - outside of the world of the basement-dwelling radicals, college students, and facebook ninjas - the message of the average politically-oriented thread on the Straight Dope Message Board is so radically liberal as to be unrecognizable to the average person. What real world is that? Certainly not mine. You’re essentially equating SDMB to Free Republic here, and that’s just ridiculous. I know exactly one person in “real life” who would consider this place to be ‘radically’ liberal, and everyone else I know in “real life” considers that particular person, well… not especially bright. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/133 "2010-04-06T13:29:16Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > What real world is that? Certainly not mine. You’re essentially equating SDMB to Free Republic here, and that’s just ridiculous. That’s your opinion, although it’s not my intent to compare the SDMB with the Free Republic (which I’ve never even visited). > [@](#): > > I know exactly one person in “real life” who would consider this place to be ‘radically’ liberal, and everyone else I know in “real life” considers that particular person, well… not especially bright. YMMV. Edited: Oh the penny has dropped, the last bit was an insult to compare me with someone who wasn’t particularly bright. OK, bored now. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/134 "2010-04-06T13:40:16Z")
**Una** , that was a pretty reasonable post overall. Calling the SDMB “raving liberal” is nuts, though. 95% _liberal_? Sure. 95% raving? Hardly. Most of us are not **Der Trihs**. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/135 "2010-04-06T13:54:18Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > Edited: Oh the penny has dropped, the last bit was an insult to compare me with someone who wasn’t particularly bright. OK, bored now. You’re welcome to that opinion, although it’s not my intent to compare you to my retarded brother in law, since I’ve never met you. Frankly I assumed you were perhaps PMSing a bit, not stupid, but I’m willing to reconsider. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/136 "2010-04-06T13:54:49Z")
When asked what specifically he was so upset about in the health care bill this Dr said the removal of hospice care coverage. He claimed that the Dems not only want to kill you by removing services but to die painfully by removing hospice coverage.:dubious: When it was pointed out to him that, in fact, all that was being removed was the ability of Dr’s to doubledip, (by charging for hospice care and also deducting the costs of providing it), his response was, “But, doh, I read it on the internet.” Yet again, just plain stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/137 "2010-04-06T13:57:12Z")
Yes, that’s been pointed out about three times already. Do keep up, dear. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/138 "2010-04-06T14:17:28Z")
Sorry, I must have missed it, my bad. (But thanks for the condescension and chastisement, who doesn’t love that in the morning?) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/139 "2010-04-06T14:20:09Z")
Well, it’s only fair. Cassell’s interview with Alan Colmes was taped in the morning. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/140 "2010-04-06T14:33:35Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > What the devil does this have to do with this thread? When did I lionize this O’Keefe person? Who the fuck is O’Keefe? [James O’Keefe III, born June 28, 1984.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe) Courageously risked his life to go undercover into the evil world of ACORN and unravel their plot to help pimps gets tax credits for setting up brothers full of child prostitutes. He was then thrust high onto the shoulders of the conservative movement, [and honoured in the House of Representatives.](http://olson.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=34§iontree=21,22,34&itemid=193) He was later caught patriotically bugging the phones of a US Senator and is awaiting trial. And it has now come to light that the tapes he created had the journalistic integrity of da Ali G Show. > [@Una\_Persson](#): > > OK, now it’s your turn. You are now mandated to take a stand and declare the demonization of conservatives on this message board to be a shitty thing to do, and to call those who do so douches. I fully expect to see you do this in every thread on this message board where this occurs, or else I will ask why you have refused to do so. > > See how this works? Work on your message to make it more logical and you won’t open yourself up to this. Ah, I see, so because I don’t stand up to EVERY liberal douche on this message board, I can’t ask for you to stand up to ONE conservative douche? What was that word you used? Logic? I’ll say it again, this man is not your hero, you do not want him representing the conservative movement. It is not conservative bashing to say this man is a douche, it is not a liberal wankfest to pile on him. The man is an asshole, that did something against Democrats. That means he is STILL an asshole. Don’t also make him a conservative. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776.md?page=8)