# Doctor tells Obama voters to get lost **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776 "2010-04-02T21:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/141 "2010-04-06T14:40:28Z")
She frankly admitted that she thinks he’s a jackass, just not in so many words. What else do you want? ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/142 "2010-04-06T14:49:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > She frankly admitted that she thinks he’s a jackass, just not in so many words. What else do you want? I want to see a map on Sarah Palin’s Facebook page that has this guy’s office marked with cross hairs. I want to see Fox News drag him through the coals. I want to see him getting lambasted on Hannity, not the other guy that used to be on this show. I want the liberal/conservative aspect of this story removed, so that the real guts can show through. The man acted in a despicable manner. But instead we have quotes like: > [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I like this doctor. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/143 "2010-04-06T14:59:18Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > Using the inherently unequal doctor-patient relationship to influence someone’s politics, or treating someone differently based on them (including making them feel less welcome in your office) is extremely unprofessional, and I would immediately stop referring patients to this doctor. Quoted for re-emphasis. Way back in the '90s when HillaryCare was still being batted about, I was undergoing treatment for cancer. One of the oncologists to which I was referred had a large cutout of Hillary Clinton in his office with an enema kit draped around its neck, and he made a few disparaging remarks about her during our first appointment which he clearly thought were the height of wit. Although I wasn’t a particular fan of the Clinton plan I left the office thinking that, whatever the guy’s merits as a doctor, he was clearly a Grade-A asshole and that I wanted to spend as little time as possible in his presence as was needed for my treatment. Fortunately most of my treatment was being directed (ironically, given the situation under discussion) by my urologist, who had a much more professional demeanor, and all eventually turned out well. But when you’re seeing a doctor, especially a specialist (and _especially_ a urologist), you as a patient are automatically in a vulnerable position and the last thing you want is a doctor making you worry whether the quality of your care - which in some circumstances may literally be a matter of life or death - is going to depend on the extent to which you agree with him on politics, religion or whatever other pet subject he has chosen to express a view on. In short, while I don’t think this guy is doing anything illegal he is certainly being extremely unprofessional and doing his patients (and potential patients) a great disservice. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/144 "2010-04-06T16:35:22Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > …Really - to deny that the SDMB is overwhelmingly, predominantly liberal is to be so facetious or so clueless that there’s little point in talking to you. In the real world - outside of the world of the basement-dwelling radicals, college students, and facebook ninjas - the message of the average politically-oriented thread on the Straight Dope Message Board is so radically liberal as to be unrecognizable to the average person… An average, ordinary person such as yourself? Well, OK. Perhaps what has happened is that you have not recalibrated your lib/con spectrum lately. I have held much the same views for about forty years now, used to be I could depend on a satisfying and affirming universal scorn, save for the sort of intellectual detritus that you outline above. My contempt for wussy centrist liberals was only a bit less than my contempt for the knuckle-walking conservatives. But centrism is creeping up on me, I find myself on the conservative wing of the extreme left, through no fault of mine own! That which was impossible in my youth is commonplace now. Is the SDMB overwhelmingly liberal? Well, then, one must ask how such an imbalance came to be on a board that prizes factual argument to the point that “cite?” is a cliché. If conservatism is so intelligent, how is it that a board that honors intelligence is not conservative? Conspiracy? By what dark magic does a raving loon like Obama not only win an election of “average Americans”, but win rather handily? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/145 "2010-04-06T16:47:33Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **Una** , that was a pretty reasonable post overall. Calling the SDMB “raving liberal” is nuts, though. 95% _liberal_? Sure. 95% raving? Hardly. Most of us are not **Der Trihs**. Is it the “raving” term which has opened me up to brickbats? How about “stridently”, which is probably much closer to what I intended to say (I admit “raving” has negative connotations which I actually did not intend. Poor choice of words on my part.) ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/146 "2010-04-06T16:48:44Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > You’re welcome to that opinion, although it’s not my intent to compare you to my retarded brother in law, since I’ve never met you. Frankly I assumed you were perhaps PMSing a bit, not stupid, but I’m willing to reconsider. Bored now. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/147 "2010-04-06T16:50:52Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > [James O’Keefe III, born June 28, 1984.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe) Courageously risked his life to go undercover into the evil world of ACORN and unravel their plot to help pimps gets tax credits for setting up brothers full of child prostitutes. He was then thrust high onto the shoulders of the conservative movement, [and honoured in the House of Representatives.](http://olson.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=34§iontree=21,22,34&itemid=193) He was later caught patriotically bugging the phones of a US Senator and is awaiting trial. And it has now come to light that the tapes he created had the journalistic integrity of da Ali G Show. Oh that guy. I don’t know what to think about that; I hardly think one could damn ACORN even if a small number of employees were giving out bad advice. > [@](#): > > Ah, I see, so because I don’t stand up to EVERY liberal douche on this message board, I can’t ask for you to stand up to ONE conservative douche? What was that word you used? Logic? Good point. Your assignment now is to stand up to only one person. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/148 "2010-04-06T16:52:31Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > She frankly admitted that she thinks he’s a jackass, just not in so many words. What else do you want? Oh I’ll say “jackass”, I’ll even say “douche” if one wants, I just…don’t think “douche” fits or is the best word. Timbertool? Dingus? Spoiled brat? Those seem to fit better. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/149 "2010-04-06T17:09:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > An average, ordinary person such as yourself? Well, OK. > > Perhaps what has happened is that you have not recalibrated your lib/con spectrum lately. I have held much the same views for about forty years now, used to be I could depend on a satisfying and affirming universal scorn, save for the sort of intellectual detritus that you outline above. My contempt for wussy centrist liberals was only a bit less than my contempt for the knuckle-walking conservatives. The SDMB has changed my views over time - I’ll freely admit that. I am more liberal on several subjects than I would have been 10 years ago. > [@](#): > > But centrism is creeping up on me, I find myself on the conservative wing of the extreme left, through no fault of mine own! That seems to sort of back up my impression though, yes? > [@](#): > > That which was impossible in my youth is commonplace now. Is the SDMB overwhelmingly liberal? Well, then, one must ask how such an imbalance came to be on a board that prizes factual argument to the point that “cite?” is a cliché. If conservatism is so intelligent, how is it that a board that honors intelligence is not conservative? Does this board honor intelligence any more, however, I believe is the question. Or rather, is it a giant “anger blog.” I’ll also hazard that conservatism stripped of its hardline Christian influence would likely be acceptable to many more people on this board than what the Republican Party has turned it into. I guess I could say what I see as being “conservatism” but it would be like a “no true Scotsman” fallacy: Me: “No conservative should ever be anti same sex marriage, because conservatism means minding your own damn business about people’s private lives.” The SDMB: “But conservative Republicans are predominantly anti same sex marriage” Me: “Oh, but they aren’t real conservatives…” And then it makes me look stupid. Which **DianaG** thinks I am, but I’ll wager there’s some who would vote the other way. > [@](#): > > Conspiracy? By what dark magic does a raving loon like Obama not only win an election of “average Americans”, but win rather handily? I supported and liked Obama. I still like him and think he’s a good President. I didn’t vote for him (nor did I vote for McCain) _solely_ because of my disgust over his choosing Biden as a running mate. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/150 "2010-04-06T17:16:26Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > Bored now. Well, it’s hard to amuse humorless people. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/151 "2010-04-06T17:18:34Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > Edited: Oh the penny has dropped, the last bit was an insult to compare me with someone who wasn’t particularly bright. OK, bored now. > [@DianaG](#): > > You’re welcome to that opinion, although it’s not my intent to compare you to my retarded brother in law, since I’ve never met you. Frankly I assumed you were perhaps PMSing a bit, not stupid, but I’m willing to reconsider. > [@elbows](#): > > When asked what specifically he was so upset about in the health care bill this Dr said the removal of hospice care coverage. He claimed that the Dems not only want to kill you by removing services but to die painfully by removing hospice coverage.:dubious: > > When it was pointed out to him that, in fact, all that was being removed was the ability of Dr’s to doubledip, (by charging for hospice care and also deducting the costs of providing it), his response was, “But, doh, I read it on the internet.” > > Yet again, just plain stupidity. > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Yes, that’s been pointed out about three times already. Do keep up, dear. > [@elbows](#): > > Sorry, I must have missed it, my bad. > > (But thanks for the condescension and chastisement, who doesn’t love that in the morning?) Dang. Folks sure are tetchy this morning. Did Ozymandius put some kind of mood-altering contaminant in the nation’s supply of chocolate rabbit ears this year? Sounds like the kind of dick move he’d pull. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/152 "2010-04-06T18:19:09Z")
Fuck [del]you[/del]\* your shoes, man. \*don’t warn me, bro! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/153 "2010-04-06T23:37:39Z")
> [@Una Persson](#): > > And yes, from time to time I have the ability to browse the SDMB for fun instead of work, and when I do so I will post what I see fit to post. Gosh, how inspiringly brave of you. An anonymous message board user boldly unafraid to be a hypocritical asshole on an anonymous message board. That takes a special brand of courage. I’m not defending illogical sweeping generalizations made by some other posters about “conservatives” in general with no qualifiers. I’m just pointing out how dumb it makes you look when you make the very same sort of illogical sweeping generalizations while complaining about theirs, such as referring to the SDMB as “95% raving liberal”. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/154 "2010-04-07T00:24:02Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Gosh, how inspiringly brave of you. An anonymous message board user boldly unafraid to be a hypocritical asshole on an anonymous message board. That takes a special brand of courage. > > I’m not defending illogical sweeping generalizations made by some other posters about “conservatives” in general with no qualifiers. I’m just pointing out how dumb it makes you look when you make the very same sort of illogical sweeping generalizations while complaining about theirs, such as referring to the SDMB as “95% raving liberal”. You pretty much refused to address my points, so it’s clear you have nothing of interest for me to read here any more. In other words, bored now. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/155 "2010-04-07T14:54:28Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Well, it’s hard to amuse humorless people. On the other hand, it is relatively easy to amuse oneself at the expense of fanatics. It’s part of the fascination of the SDMB. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/156 "2010-04-07T15:00:14Z")
While you’re here, how do _you_ feel about this physician’s actions? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776/157 "2010-04-07T15:06:43Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > On the other hand, it is relatively easy to amuse oneself at the expense of fanatics. It’s part of the fascination of the SDMB. It is for a lot of us. Thanks. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-tells-obama-voters-to-get-lost/534776.md?page=7)