# Doctor Who and Sarah Jane Fans

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 25, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016 "2009-10-25T00:57:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/21 "2009-10-28T13:12:52Z")

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I totally agree about the Tom Baker and Leela combo this was my favorite match up and I think they were in the best episodes. Fang Rock, Robots of Death, Talons, Sunmakers. The thing about Leela was how independent, tough and aggressive she was and at times she even killed a real prototype of Xena.

If memory serves Tom Baker absolutely hated the character of Leela both in the aggressiveness and violence portrayed by her actions in what was regarded as a children’s show and by her upstaging him, he gave her a rough time and lobbied hard to get rid of her.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/22 "2009-10-28T14:42:14Z")

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They cast Georgia Moffett in the fourth season as the Doctor’s Daughter. She’s the real life daughter of Peter Davison (the fifth doctor). Later, Georgia was romantically linked to David Tennant for awhile in the real world.

Georgia did a good job playing the Doctor’s daughter. It opens up the possibility of a female Doctor. But, so far that hasn’t developed.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/23 "2009-10-30T17:00:52Z")

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David Tennant is guesting on _Sarah Jane Adventures_ two parter _The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith_

I’m surprised they managed to get him for this. The first part aired last night.

Tennant also guested in the first season of Sarah Jane a couple years ago.

Tennant interview discussing his feelings about leaving

> **[David Tennant: Doctor Who farewell was 'very emotional'](https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2009/oct/30/david-tennant-doctor-who-farewell)**
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> Star declares himself 'jealous' of successor Matt Smith – and reveals his final lines in role. By Jason Deans

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/24 "2009-10-30T22:18:58Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Tennant also guested in the first season of Sarah Jane a couple years ago.

No, he didn’t. Sarah Jane guested in _Doctor Who_.

I’ve just heard that the new episode of _Doctor Who_, “Waters of Mars”, will be screened on Nov 15 in the UK, and Nov 19 in the US.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/25 "2009-10-30T22:41:53Z")

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I was lucky (and old) enough to watch Doctor Who from the start 🆒 (mostly from behind the couch :eek: ).

Tom Baker is clearly an alien in real life 😉 , so playing the Doctor came naturally to him.  
I think Tennant is marvellous too (though the modern classy special effects do help him.)

Elisabeth Sladen was a good-looking companion and she’s still fine.  
(Although I have to put Lalla Ward as my favourite on looks…).

I shall miss Russell T. Davis, but Stephen Moffat did write ‘Blink’.  
I agree with HPL that this was the best-ever episode as well as the creepiest!

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/26 "2009-11-03T01:22:35Z")

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**The Waters of Mars**

[spoiler]This clip has been out for a while: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKnoXkrYcwI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKnoXkrYcwI)  
This is newer: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bGaatsZozo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bGaatsZozo)

Here are some [vague spoilers](http://geekblips.dailyradar.com/story/the-waters-of-mars-sunday-november-15/).

Oh, and in case anyone’s missed it, here’s the “cinema trailer” from a couple of months ago: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClNAiVhcIMA&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClNAiVhcIMA&feature=related)

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/27 "2009-11-03T09:05:25Z")

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> [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](#):
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> My only worry about Waters of Mars is that I will miss it as I am in Florida in the middle of November and sod’s law says that will be when they show it.
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> Looking forward to the Christmas specials and the:
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Bloody typical, it’s on November the 15th, just as I set sail from Ft Lauderdale on a boat. Hope the wife can set the DVD recorder.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/28 "2009-11-03T15:28:13Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> No, he didn’t. Sarah Jane guested in _Doctor Who_.
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> I’ve just heard that the new episode of _Doctor Who_, “Waters of Mars”, will be screened on Nov 15 in the UK, and Nov 19 in the US.

I can’t speak for the UK date, but according to the BBC America website they will be airing it on December 19. Which is good because I will be out of town on November 19th, and it’s one less thing I need to remember to set up on my DVR.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/29 "2009-11-03T15:35:56Z")

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BBC America always runs shows weeks or even months after they air in Britain. I’m not complaining. We’re lucky to get them at all.

It’s going to be difficult seeing this Doctor end. I felt the same way when Christopher Eccleston’s Doctor transformed.

For a kids show, it certainly gets you invested in the characters. Seeing Rose leave was tough.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/30 "2009-11-03T17:44:05Z")

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David Tennant has been cast in a pilot for NBC- [Rex Is Not Your Lawyer](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8339796.stm), - written by David Lampson and Andrew Leeds.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/31 "2009-11-03T23:10:37Z")

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> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> I can’t speak for the UK date, but according to the BBC America website they will be airing it on December 19. Which is good because I will be out of town on November 19th, and it’s one less thing I need to remember to set up on my DVR.

You’re right, I probably read the date wrong, or the site I got it from also had the date wrong.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/32 "2009-11-15T18:11:53Z")

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\*Waters of Mars \* airs in about an hour in Britain.

I’ll post comments later after I get to see it.

Should we avoid spoilers here?

nice previews  
[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1227614/Dr-Who-Frightening-pictures-The-Waters-Mars-scariest-yet.html](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1227614/Dr-Who-Frightening-pictures-The-Waters-Mars-scariest-yet.html)

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/33 "2009-11-15T18:49:24Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> \*Waters of Mars \* airs in about an hour in Britain.
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> I’ll post comments later after I get to see it.
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> Should we avoid spoilers here?

Yes, please. Or maybe create a different thread for UK viewers.

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/34 "2009-11-16T00:33:04Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Oh, for heaven’s sake, can we end this meme? He is 27 years old. That’s not significantly younger than 30 year old Peter Davison when he started. The difference between him and Tennant (who was 34) is notable, but not nearly enough to explain the ‘Augh! So young!’ reaction. Especially compared for the 10 year drop from 45 year old Eccleston to 34 year old Tennant.

As someone who was involved in fandom at the time Davison started the role, he was HEAVILY criticized at the time as being ‘too young’ to portray the doctor…in both the British and American fandoms. This was just about the point that many PBS stations in America started airing the show, and the American fandom was exploding. The ‘first doctor’ for most of them was Tom Baker.

Davison was widely regarded by most of these fans as a casting mistake of huge proportions, especially in regard to his age and his perceived ‘blandness’. I’m not exaggerating - been there, done that, edited the newsletter.

So, given the history if the fandom…the ‘too young’ reaction is not particularly out of line.

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-and-sarah-jane-fans/515016/35 "2009-11-16T03:34:30Z")

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“The Waters of Mars” thread with open spoilers: [Doctor Who: The Waters of Mars [Open Spoilers] - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=540075)

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