# Doctor who performed abortions shot to death.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 31, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280 "2009-05-31T19:55:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/41 "2009-06-01T00:27:51Z")

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> [@Ice\_Cream\_Man](#):
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> Why do pro-lifers never blame the women getting abortions as much as the doctors? In their mind, aren’t they hiring people to kill babies?

Because it would be political suicide for the movement to call for the execution of women who get abortions.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/42 "2009-06-01T00:31:02Z")

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> [@Ice\_Cream\_Man](#):
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> Why do pro-lifers never blame the women getting abortions as much as the doctors?

They do…frequently, they will stage protests right outside of abortion-providing clinics in an attempt to intimidate women trying to go inside (whether for an abortion or other medical purposes).

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Cream_Man)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/43 "2009-06-01T00:32:17Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> They do…frequently, they will stage protests right outside of abortion-providing clinics in an attempt to intimidate women trying to go inside (whether for an abortion or other medical purposes).

I’ve just never heard of threats being made or attempts on their lives. It seems like they’re blamed LESS than doctors.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/44 "2009-06-01T00:32:27Z")

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My only surprise when an abortion doc is killed is that it doesn’t happen more often. Pro-lifers feel an abortion is as morally wrong as killing a newborn baby, right? Imagine there were places that a new mom can bring her month-old infant to, where they would euthanise it then chuck it in the medical incinerator for her. What’s the difference in a pro-lifer’s eye? Would you expect people to just stand outside this place holding signs?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/45 "2009-06-01T00:33:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> My only surprise when an abortion doc is killed is that it doesn’t happen more often. Pro-lifers feel an abortion is as morally wrong as killing a newborn baby, right? Imagine there were places that a new mom can bring her month-old infant to, where they would euthanise it then chuck it in the medical incinerator for her. What’s the difference in a pro-lifer’s eye? Would you expect people to just stand outside this place holding signs?

These people may be a bit off, but they’re not stupid. Not many people would be willing to go to prison _themselves_ to bring a murderer to justice.

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**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/46 "2009-06-01T00:37:59Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I, for one, think it’s funny that an abortion doctor goes to church.

Almost as funny as there being Christian chaplains in the military.

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**Author:** ![PeacePlease](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@PeacePlease](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeacePlease)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/47 "2009-06-01T00:38:16Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I, for one, think it’s funny that an abortion doctor goes to church.

> [@PeacePlease](#):
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> Sorry for the double post but WTF? Why? You can’t be a Christian and be a medical doctor?

> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> Haha..Going to church makes you a christian, like going in the garage makes you a car.

I agree that going to church does not make you a Christian. However, **RandMcnally’s** comment was clearly intimating that you could not perform abortions and be a church-going Christian. That is just bullshit.

Obviously, Dr. Tiller was.

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/48 "2009-06-01T00:40:12Z")

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> [@PeacePlease](#):
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> I agree that going to church does not make you a Christian. However, **RandMcnally’s** comment was clearly intimating that you could not perform abortions and be a church-going Christian. That is just bullshit.
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> Obviously, Dr. Tiller was.

**RandMcnally** is obviously not a Christian, or he would know this.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/49 "2009-06-01T00:41:32Z")

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> [@PeacePlease](#):
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> I agree that going to church does not make you a Christian. However, **RandMcnally’s** comment was clearly intimating that you could not perform abortions and be a church-going Christian. That is just bullshit.
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> Obviously, Dr. Tiller was.

Was what? A christian?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/50 "2009-06-01T00:43:44Z")

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[http://www.kwch.com/Global/category.asp?C=87352&nav=menu486\_2\_2](http://www.kwch.com/Global/category.asp?C=87352&nav=menu486_2_2)

It’s now being reported that it indeed is Scott Philip Roeder of Merriam, KS.

Operation Rescue’s site is down. They must be shitting bricks right now.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/51 "2009-06-01T00:45:10Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> [http://www.kwch.com/Global/category.asp?C=87352&nav=menu486\_2\_2](http://www.kwch.com/Global/category.asp?C=87352&nav=menu486_2_2)
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> It’s now being reported that it indeed is Scott Philip Roeder of Merriam, KS.

F\*\*kin’ Kansans

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/52 "2009-06-01T00:46:23Z")

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> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> Was what? A christian?

It’s ok if you don’t want to believe it. I do the same with a lot of judgmental assholes who call themselves Christians too.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/53 "2009-06-01T00:50:01Z")

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> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#):
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> It’s ok if you don’t want to believe it. I do the same with a lot of judgmental assholes who call themselves Christians too.

Huh?

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/54 "2009-06-01T00:51:18Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> **RandMcnally** is obviously not a Christian, or he would know this.

I always assumed killing babies was a big no-no in Christianity.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/55 "2009-06-01T00:53:53Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> The rumors are that it is a guy named Scott Roeder. He was a poster on Operation Rescue’s site.
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> Big surprise.
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> Bleass everyone for attending and praying in May to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp.  
> Sometime soon, would it be feasible to organize as many people as possible to attend Tillers church (inside, not just outside) to have much more of a presence and possibly ask questions of the Pastor, Deacons, Elders and members while there? Doesn’t seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller.

Is there a link to that italicized part\*? And either way, do you have any idea when it was posted?

\*Well, it’s _all_ italicized when I put it in a quote like that. I mean the part I underlined.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/56 "2009-06-01T00:54:32Z")

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> [@Ice\_Cream\_Man](#):
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> I’ve just never heard of threats being made or attempts on their lives. It seems like they’re blamed LESS than doctors.

Because if they did so, they’d end up killing the fetus as well – which is, technically, what they claim they’re trying to stop.

> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I always assumed killing babies was a big no-no in Christianity.

And since no one was doing so, what’s your point?

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**Author:** ![PeacePlease](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@PeacePlease](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeacePlease)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/57 "2009-06-01T00:54:44Z")

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The fact that Operation Rescue felt they had to make any kind of press announcement to me indicates some degree of knowledge on their part about this piece of shit murderer. Just how tight he and the organization are/were remains to be seen. It would be lovely if this takes them down.

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**Author:** ![PeacePlease](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@PeacePlease](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeacePlease)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/58 "2009-06-01T00:57:19Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I always assumed killing babies was a big no-no in Christianity.

That’s being a bit obtuse. People can have any or no religious beliefs and be pro-choice. The majority of America is Christian and the majority of America is pro-choice. Your assumption is incorrect.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/59 "2009-06-01T00:58:21Z")

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> [@PeacePlease](#):
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> The fact that Operation Rescue felt they had to make any kind of press announcement to me indicates some degree of knowledge on their part about this piece of shit murderer. Just how tight he and the organization are/were remains to be seen. It would be lovely if this takes them down.

Are you talking about Dr.Tiller or Mr.Roeder?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-performed-abortions-shot-to-death/498280/60 "2009-06-01T01:02:14Z")

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:rolleyes:

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