# Doctor Who: S7 E12 "The Crimson Horror" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 4, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7-e12-the-crimson-horror/657495 "2013-05-04T20:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7-e12-the-crimson-horror/657495/81 "2013-05-09T22:45:46Z")
What’s with the :rolleyes:? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7-e12-the-crimson-horror/657495/82 "2013-05-10T09:58:49Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > _And_ Madame Vastra has already been compared to Sherlock Holmes Not just compared to, stated to be the inspiration for. And Ada is more likely a reference to Ada Salt, the daughter of Sir Titus Salt, who founded [Saltaire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltaire), which Sweetville was based on. It’s not like she had anything to do with building her mother’s machine, which would make Lovelace a tenuous reference, at the very best. ---
**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7-e12-the-crimson-horror/657495/83 "2013-05-10T22:05:23Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > What’s with the :rolleyes:? Self depreciation: it was a rather dumb remark. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7-e12-the-crimson-horror/657495/84 "2013-05-10T22:25:59Z")
> [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](#): > > Self depreciation: it was a rather dumb remark. Oh, I don’t know. You know about “Skippy the Bush Kangaroo”, which I never heard of until now. The only Skippy I know of is a wallaby featured in some ads from **Bruce Chevrolet** in Hillsboro Oregon. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7-e12-the-crimson-horror/657495/85 "2013-05-13T18:51:04Z")
Just caught up. This one wasn’t terrible, but it wasn’t very engaging. (and I love the victorian horror setting too, though the Red-faced Doctor’s silly mugging kinda killed the horror vibe). I think I’m done with Jenny/Vastra/Strax. Aside from seeing Jenny kick butt on her own and in a leather catsuit (?!) there wasn’t much here that we hadn’t seen already in their previous appearances. And Vastra has stretched believability to the breaking point. That flimsy veil is supposed to hide her alien features? and even if you accept that it does, she flings it up at a moments’ notice, almost deliberately freaking out the humans around her. Where are the pitchfork and torch mobs? I didn’t realize that was Diana Rigg until the “inside Dr. Who” segment in the commercials, and I _have_ been watching GoT. That wimple she wears over there vs. the scraggly hair here makes a big difference. (as does having a non-cartoonish character) Well, Clara’s growing on me at least. She was useful and fun, and not in a Mary-Sueish way. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7-e12-the-crimson-horror/657495/86 "2013-05-14T15:08:41Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > And Vastra has stretched believability to the breaking point. That flimsy veil is supposed to hide her alien features? To be fair, Vastra’s not an alien. She’s a Silurian, and they evolved on Earth. Hide her “reptilian” features is correct, and I agree, this is getting silly. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7-e12-the-crimson-horror/657495/87 "2013-05-14T18:13:29Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > To be fair, Vastra’s not an alien. She’s a Silurian, and they evolved on Earth. Hide her “reptilian” features is correct, and I agree, this is getting silly. Yes, of course. Silly of me to forget. They are still the same features, though… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7-e12-the-crimson-horror/657495.md?page=4)