# Doctor Who S7E7 the Bells of Saint John **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381 "2013-03-30T21:16:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/81 "2013-04-04T20:52:46Z")
Not as far as I know. I only know the actress from Stephen Fry’s Kingdom. The kiddie dialogue is because when Miss Kislet was a child the Great Intelligence ganked her and made her his number 2. When she restored everyone to factory settings, they went back to just before they got ‘taken’. She just happened to have been taken a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/82 "2013-04-04T21:06:54Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > And “snog-box”. Dammit, I want a snog-box! That one was quite funny. Specially his befuddled/offended reaction at having the TARDIS called a snog-box (hey, it does sound mighty suspicious for some …um… eccentric dude to show up and ask young cuties to step into a box with him…) ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/83 "2013-04-04T21:11:42Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > I liked this episode; the bizarre corporate culture at the Shard most of all (the exchange about Alexei that **standingwave** quoted, and the idea of “hacking” the employees for whatever was optimal for the moment). Yeah - “My conscience is telling me not to do this” (boss lowers “conscience” rating) “Right away!” ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/84 "2013-04-05T15:39:43Z")
Loved this episode; found the notion of sucking people into the wifi pleasantly creepy. Fell right in love w/ Clara–if she keeps it at this level, she may make a run for Favorite Companion, potentially unseating the Great Donna. :eek: On the other hand, all of this speculation about her being River is a bit bothersome. I am thoroughly Rivered out. I want a total River hiatus for at least several seasons. Perhaps longer. Please Mr. Moffat, no more River. Also, no Angels, you’ve bloody well ruined them enough already. On yet a third hand, what is Jenna-Louise Coleman’s ethnicity? She’s got this sort of vaguely indeterminate not-white-European thing going on, rather like Gina Bellman of Leverage. It is, of course, totally hot. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/47e85d/32.png) [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3_20_59_or_bust)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/85 "2013-04-05T16:23:15Z")
> [@FordPrefect](#): > > She’s no Amy Pond (I have a thing for moody redheads, sue me :)) but she is hotdorable and I think her flirty and a little dirty demeanor and sassy attitude is going to be a great counter to the Doctor’s zaniness. I’m also in the Amy Pond camp. The following photo, however, has gone a long way, a looooong way, toward changing my mind: [Jenna…](http://mystarclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/jenna-louise-coleman-hot.png) ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/86 "2013-04-05T16:39:42Z")
> [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](#): > > I’m also in the Amy Pond camp. The following photo, however, has gone a long way, a looooong way, toward changing my mind: > > [Jenna…](http://mystarclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/jenna-louise-coleman-hot.png) Wow - was she going for Emma Peel? StG ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/87 "2013-04-05T17:01:48Z")
> [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](#): > > I’m also in the Amy Pond camp. The following photo, however, has gone a long way, a looooong way, toward changing my mind: > > [Jenna…](http://mystarclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/jenna-louise-coleman-hot.png) In the immortal word of Keanu Reeves, “Whoa.” ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/88 "2013-04-05T22:07:06Z")
Or in the immortal words of a BBC Drama exec “Something for the dads …” ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/89 "2013-04-05T22:31:54Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Amused by the reaction to Clara. As the euphemism goes 'and something for the dads … ’ > [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Or in the immortal words of a BBC Drama exec “Something for the dads …” Uh oh–I think we’re in a time loop. 😉 Clara _is_ quite comely. I’d definitely put her at or near the top of my list of hottest companions of the Doctor. Yes, I have a list. ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/90 "2013-04-06T14:06:49Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > I don’t think she’s been in Who before. I knew her from her roles as Auntie Una in _Bridget Jones_ and Fadge in _A Midwinter’s Tale_. She was also in _The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel._ ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/91 "2013-04-06T15:17:23Z")
> [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](#): > > I’m also in the Amy Pond camp. The following photo, however, has gone a long way, a looooong way, toward changing my mind: > > [Jenna…](http://mystarclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/jenna-louise-coleman-hot.png) Well played, sir, well played. They seem to like [slinking up companions](http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/k/karen-gillan-wallpaper_162441-1600x1200.jpg) in shiny suits though… ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/92 "2013-04-06T16:17:25Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Uh oh–I think we’re in a time loop. 😉 Sorry, I was completely mashed up last night ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/93 "2013-04-06T16:26:12Z")
> [@FordPrefect](#): > > They seem to like [slinking up companions](http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/k/karen-gillan-wallpaper_162441-1600x1200.jpg) in shiny suits though… I love Amy, and I’m rather fond of Karen, but that’s just not right. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/94 "2013-04-06T16:52:26Z")
> [@SuperNelson](#): > > She was also in _The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel._ And in Calendar Girls (and needed [considerably bigger buns](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1_QH57InDo)). This isn’t her first science fiction, either: she was a [fighter pilot in _The Phantom Menace_.](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ellberger) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/95 "2013-04-06T17:04:02Z")
> [@FordPrefect](#): > > Well played, sir, well played. > > They seem to like [slinking up companions](http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/k/karen-gillan-wallpaper_162441-1600x1200.jpg) in shiny suits though… I suspect that that may not be an original image of Karen. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/96 "2013-04-06T18:08:13Z")
> [@Cayuga](#): > > I love Amy, and I’m rather fond of Karen, but that’s just not right. I completely agree. It just doesn’t work for her. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/97 "2013-04-06T21:02:16Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > I suspect that that may not be an original image of Karen. I hope you are right, it’s not a very flattering shot, especially of her face. I shouldn’t have linked it, but I thought it was weird that they both have been shot in latex, but maybe they haven’t. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/98 "2013-04-06T21:22:12Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > I suspect that that may not be an original image of Karen. You may be right. (possibly NSFW): [http://headswapharry.blogspot.com/2011/05/karen-gillan.html?zx=1c803e3e86539601](http://headswapharry.blogspot.com/2011/05/karen-gillan.html?zx=1c803e3e86539601) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/99 "2013-04-06T22:23:49Z")
Jenna-Louise Coleman had a short topless scene in _Room At the Top_. Video clips are easily found with google. I think she shot that role shortly before getting cast in Doctor Who. It did seem odd because Jenna always plays the sweet girl next door type. But the girl next door does get the boy once in awhile. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381/100 "2013-04-06T23:47:57Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Yeah - “My conscience is telling me not to do this” (boss lowers “conscience” rating) “Right away!” It does make you question why “obedience” wouldn’t always be turned all the way up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-s7e7-the-bells-of-saint-john/654381.md?page=6)