# Doctor Who Season 5 US pace thread. \[No Spoilers until US Airing\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 19, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640 "2010-04-19T17:00:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/101 "2010-05-05T15:52:18Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > He’s got a goofy and befuddled thing going that is nothing like Tenant. Weird. Goofy and befuddled seem like two adjectives that fit the Tenant version pretty well. Not sure how we can have such different ideas about Tenant’s character! (Befuddled, in Tenant’s case, only typically as a sort of pretense, though. But a well-and-often maintained pretense. I’ve interpreted the Smith version of befuddledness in the same way.) ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/102 "2010-05-05T15:53:13Z")
> [@Corner\_Case](#): > > and she needs to stop being taller than everyone 😉 I humbly disagree. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/103 "2010-05-05T16:27:10Z")
> [@The New and Improved Superman](#): > > So how is it that this Larry Ellison-type guy from “Dalek” in 2012 doesn’t know anything about the Daleks, the Battle of Canary Wharf, or the time the Daleks _stole the freakin’ Earth out of its’ orbit?_ It was established in _Pyramids of Mars_ (waay back in 1975, fact fans!) that even though you’ve experienced the future (or the “present”) one way, that doesn’t mean it can’t be changed by subsequent (?) events in the past. Look, it’s time travel. It’s complicated. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/104 "2010-05-07T13:21:14Z")
> [@Poonther](#): > > Next week’s episode deals with the “weeping angels.” Hopefully this episode will be as almost as good as Blink. I see that Alex Kingston is reprising her role as River Song from “Forest of the Dead” in this episode and a few to follow. In “Forest of the Dead” didn’t River Song reference knowing the Doctor (Tennant) from the future or was it from the past? The meeting in the Library was from River Song’s past (she makes a comment about how young The Doctor looks). It was the first time in The Doctor’s personal timeline that they met, and the last time in River’s timeline that they were together. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/105 "2010-05-07T14:03:51Z")
[quote=“Corner\_Case, post:100, topic:536640”] [ol][li]Because of the Rose/Two-Universe problem there are now multiple timelines/dimensions and the Tardis is slipping between them in the Crack.[_]The Doctor encountered Ellison between an event that went back and erased those other invasions and an event that went back and restored the invasions.[_]Jack had already been there and used his memory pills on them.[_]A writing continuity error that will not be resolved.[_]All the nerds were playing an intense session of WoW and didn’t notice the invasions or the stolen earth.[/ol][/li][/QUOTE] Just wanted to point out that Jack’s memory pills are called _RetCon_. Just the thing to sew up ragged holes in continuity… ---
**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/106 "2010-05-07T15:29:37Z")
C’mon - no mention of “Broadsword calling Danny Boy”? I LOL’d at that and replayed it for my wife to see if she would catch it, which she did: probably because there was recently a triple feature of _The Guns of Navaronne, Ice Station Zebra,_ and _Where Eagles Dare_ on cable and I was quoting lines for a week afterward. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/107 "2010-05-07T16:42:09Z")
I’ve moved three posts [by **The New and Improved Superman** , **Lute Skywatcher** and **duality72**] into [the UK pace thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12427718). ---
**Author:** ![ryobserver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b2d939/32.png) [@ryobserver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryobserver)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/108 "2010-05-07T23:03:38Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > The bright, primary colors just look wrong. Boy, do they. When the new candy-coated Daleks rolled out my first reaction was “They look _adorable_!” Skittles Daleks: Exterminate The Rainbow. This episode did introduce the only thing scarier than a Dalek in killing mode: a Dalek in helping mode. “WOULD YOU LIKE SOME TEA?” Um, no. And don’t offer to clean the floor, either, Roomba from hell. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/109 "2010-05-07T23:08:16Z")
> [@ryobserver](#): > > Boy, do they. When the new candy-coated Daleks rolled out my first reaction was “They look _adorable_!” Skittles Daleks: Exterminate The Rainbow. > > This episode did introduce the only thing scarier than a Dalek in killing mode: a Dalek in helping mode. “WOULD YOU LIKE SOME TEA?” Um, no. And don’t offer to clean the floor, either, Roomba from hell. I thought that was pretty silly, even for a show where silly is pretty normal. I mean, these super-sophisticated robotic machines are your secret weapon against the Germans and you have them serving tea? ---
**Author:** ![Scruff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Scruff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruff)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/110 "2010-05-09T08:25:18Z")
With respect, I disagree. Having the Daleks serve tea, carry files and (perhaps) clean the floors showed how much they had become ingrained into military life. They had been accepted as soldiers, albeit mechanical, and had become completely accepted as part of the landscape. So when The Doctor starts rambling on about “alien killing machines” and “deadliest thing to hit the Earth since the Spice Girls” (OK, I made that one up), his opinions are discounted because the Daleks are so useful, so commonplace, so much like other soldiers. Or… I could be overthinking what was perhaps a joke in a TV show targeted at children and families 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ryobserver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b2d939/32.png) [@ryobserver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryobserver)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/111 "2010-05-09T23:32:09Z")
I assumed the tea-serving and such was part of the Daleks’ Cunning Plan–making themselves look helpful and obedient so they would be accepted. The joke being that they can’t even say “WOULD YOU LIKE SOME TEA?” without making it sound like a threat. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/112 "2010-05-10T01:00:45Z")
AAARGH! This week’s episode is a cliffhanger! I’m so annoyed! It’s a good episode, though, and the final line is brilliant. Are the USA and Canada in sync? The “Weeping Angels” episode has already aired up here. ---
**Author:** ![ivan732](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aeb1de/32.png) [@ivan732](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan732)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/113 "2010-05-10T01:14:42Z")
I suspect that the WOULD. YOU. CARE. FOR. SOME. TEA. joke is slightly lost elsewhere, because both Daleks and tea are ingrained in British culture. Daleks represent ultimate evil, while a nice cup of tea is about as mundane as it gets. Put them together and comic juxtaposition ensues. An American equivalent might be a Klingon asking “do you want fries with that?” in a gruff and threatening manner. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/114 "2010-05-10T01:35:12Z")
> [@straight\_man](#): > > Are the USA and Canada in sync? The “Weeping Angels” episode has already aired up here. Yes. Maybe not _entirely_ in sync - I don’t get to discuss with my American friends until the Monday - but by the end of the Sunday, both the US and Canada have had the eps, for sure. And, yeah, this was a good’n. Amy and River have the best Companion interplay. Also: ‘I love that sound. It’s a brilliant sound.’ ---
**Author:** ![Monkey\_Chews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Monkey\_Chews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monkey_Chews)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/115 "2010-05-10T02:22:29Z")
> [@WotNot](#): > > It was established in _Pyramids of Mars_ (waay back in 1975, fact fans!) that even though you’ve experienced the future (or the “present”) one way, that doesn’t mean it can’t be changed by subsequent (?) events in the past. > > Look, it’s time travel. It’s complicated. Or as Terrance Dicks once put it, “Hey look - monsters! RUN!” ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/116 "2010-05-10T02:42:32Z")
> [@WotNot](#): > > \ > > Look, it’s time travel. It’s complicated. Or as the good Doctor put it himself… “Wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey” ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/117 "2010-05-10T02:45:16Z")
Anyone care to speculate how Dr. Rivers is actually related to Doctor Who? It seemed like more of a “she kills him”\* than a “she marries him” to me. \*Seeing as the Doctor can regenerate, it’s not too much of a game-ending twist. I like the possibility, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/118 "2010-05-10T03:42:23Z")
So what was the “brilliant” final line? I don’t remember… ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/119 "2010-05-10T03:48:18Z")
> [@OpalCat](#): > > So what was the “brilliant” final line? I don’t remember… Okay, maybe more “cool” than “brilliant” — but he’s telling the angels that they made one mistake. Paraphrasing: You made a mistake! When you lay a trap, there is one thing you mustn’t put into it! [This general theme repeats several times.] There’s one thing you mustn’t put into it! [Fires the gun] Me. I thought it was hardcore. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640/120 "2010-05-10T12:11:09Z")
> [@straight\_man](#): > > AAARGH! This week’s episode is a cliffhanger! I’m so annoyed! It’s a good episode, though, and the final line is brilliant. > > Are the USA and Canada in sync? The “Weeping Angels” episode has already aired up here. I think we are in sync. BBCA showed the Weeping Angels episode Saturday night. I missed what The Doctor said, what happens when you look an angel in the eyes? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-5-us-pace-thread-no-spoilers-until-us-airing/536640.md?page=7)