# Doctor Who Season Season 11 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 7, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620 "2018-10-07T18:58:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/181 "2018-10-24T16:13:47Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > My memory may be faulty, but the one thing I cannot recall ever seeing the Doctor do with the sonic screwdriver, is drive a screw. Well, in Day of the Doctors, the War Doctor did, when Smith/Tennant kept pointing their sonics at the Queen copy, ask them “What are you going to do, assemble a cabinet at them?” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/182 "2018-10-24T17:41:52Z")
Rosa parks passed away 13 years ago today. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/183 "2018-10-26T08:14:30Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > I remember one episode of Classic Who where we saw a screw unscrewing itself, but I don’t recall which. [War Games](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWaS5QtUZKA), where Patrick Troughton is demonstrating his bona fides as an alien time traveller by remotely unscrewing and rescrewing the butt of a soldier’s pistol. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/184 "2018-10-26T09:42:30Z")
Matt Smith’s Doctor (Eleven) also used it as a screwdriver on the TARDIS counsel at one point - can’t remember which episodes, but it caused some comment in the on-line chatter about the show. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/185 "2018-10-26T09:48:59Z")
My wife bought our daughter [one of these shirts](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07927V7MF/ref=twister_B078XD5Z8T) (in children’s size, of course). It’s rather nice. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/186 "2018-10-27T02:42:03Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Gods, no. I’d be happy never seeing River Song again. She was insufferable. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > She had her moments, but that character wore thin with overuse. River might be my favorite companion on NuWho. But I agree that she could have been insufferable, had she been played by an actor less talented than Alex Kingston. I occasionally go to YouTube and watch her “When you’re in love with the Doctor” scene from " The Husbands Of River Song", just to enjoy the interplay between her and Peter Capaldi; two brilliant actors, practicing their craft. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/187 "2018-10-28T22:34:13Z")
Spiders are icky, giant spiders and I want to see roughnecks deploying with power armor and calling in orbital fire support with nuclear warshots. Humane and dignified end is not what I am gonna give an insect or arachnid. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/188 "2018-10-29T01:15:16Z")
[Interesting timing](https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2018/10/15/arachnophobia-is-irrational/)for the episode. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/189 "2018-10-29T01:55:47Z")
Interesting. Moral of story: Giant Spiders aren’t the monsters, the real monster is [sub] an excruciatingly thinly veiled version of[/sub] Trump. I wonder if he will recur as needed. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/190 "2018-10-29T01:58:54Z")
It did feel strange to find myself thinking, you know, the Trump stand-in is right. Violence is the answer in this situation. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/191 "2018-10-29T02:20:29Z")
> [@Steve\_McQwark](#): > > It did feel strange to find myself thinking, you know, the Trump stand-in is right. Violence is the answer in this situation. Letting the giant spiders starve or suffocate is more humane than shooting them… why, exactly? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/192 "2018-10-29T03:44:40Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Letting the giant spiders starve or suffocate is more humane than shooting them… why, exactly? :dubious: You’ll have to ask the Doctor that one; her views on what’s humane don’t hold up to close scrutiny. For me personally, I’m live and let live for small, non-poisonous spiders, but once they get bigger than a beagle, they need to be exterminated in the quickest way possible. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/193 "2018-10-29T05:23:56Z")
Was the American broadcast edited to pieces or something? There wasn’t actually any resolution to the story. They lure the spiders into the panic room and then [del]Trump[/del]JLR shoots the big one (which was the _right_ decision btw!) and then the next scene they’re back at home. So the spiders are still in the panic room? The Doctor’s plan was to just leave them there until they all starved to death or cannibalized each other? That’s better than a quick shot to the head why? And [del]Trump[/del]JLR is fine with having a panic room full of giant man-eating spiders to worry about? ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/194 "2018-10-29T07:53:14Z")
It wasn’t the best episode. There was no alien hand waving about how the spiders got so big (instead using a very 1980’s "toxic waste acting on scientific experiments!), the end was so morally grey that I’m wondering if the point is specifically to show that the Doctor’s morality is stupid. The Trump stand in was much more heavy handed than the very well done Rosa Parks situation last episode. The spiders looked OK. ---
**Author:** ![Eclipse\_Chaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Eclipse\_Chaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eclipse_Chaser)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/195 "2018-10-29T09:47:24Z")
> [@Teuton](#): > > It wasn’t the best episode. There was no alien hand waving about how the spiders got so big (instead using a very 1980’s "toxic waste acting on scientific experiments!), the end was so morally grey that I’m wondering if the point is specifically to show that the Doctor’s morality is stupid. The Trump stand in was much more heavy handed than the very well done Rosa Parks situation last episode. > The spiders looked OK. Actually I found that quite a refreshing change from the usual “the Doctor averts yet another alien invasion”. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/196 "2018-10-29T09:57:00Z")
Three things: 1. HOLY CRAP GIANT SPIDERS; 2. An excellent and entertaining turn from Chris Noth as Not-Trump, and I suspect we’ll at least be hearing from him again if not actively seeing him; and 3. Yeah, another “Guns are bad, but gruesome mass death is fine” episode (see also: exploding gas fields). ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/197 "2018-10-29T10:43:11Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > An excellent and entertaining turn from Chris Noth as Not-Trump, and I suspect we’ll at least be hearing from him again if not actively seeing him He appeared to be having a whale of a time. didn’t he? I’m enjoying the smaller scale of this. It’s a nice change of pace from the Moffat overload. ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/198 "2018-10-29T11:33:30Z")
I think the major problem I had with this one was the disconnect of the “solution” at the end. Was there really no other solution than to let the mother spider asphyxiate and all the others starve, whilst apologising to them? It’s a sci fi show, could she not have lured the spiders to be tardis and taken them off to some spidery paradise? The spiders were victims in this ep, and the doctor did nothing to help them. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/199 "2018-10-29T11:44:31Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > He appeared to be having a whale of a time. didn’t he? I’ll confess that a teensy part of me wanted him to say “Oh my God, it killed Kevin! You bastard!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620/200 "2018-10-29T12:40:05Z")
A crappy episode after one of the best in years. > [@Gyrate](#): > > I’ll confess that a teensy part of me wanted him to say “Oh my God, it killed Kevin! You bastard!” 😃 Oh damn, me too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-season-11/822620.md?page=11)