# Doctor Who season two (a/k/a season 15) spoilers OK after airing **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [April 11, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923 "2025-04-11T18:22:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/21 "2025-04-26T23:41:36Z")
Better this week. It’s no Midnight but fine. And I don’t think it bears up to thinking about too hard. I really do love Ncuti as an actor. I really don’t like The Doctor’s promise given his track record. And my initial great feeling for the relationship between The Doctor and Belinda is not yet coming pass, regrettably. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/22 "2025-04-27T01:19:48Z")
It’s the only way to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/23 "2025-04-27T02:08:10Z")
I was think the same thing… Wonder how much overlap (if any) for Verada Sethu filming for this and Andor – guess it depends on how much we see her (so far about 30 seconds on Andor) It has been a while since I saw Midnight – reading the summary helped. Brian ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/24 "2025-04-27T02:34:44Z")
Another great episode, and a complete change of tone from “Lux.” When they said “Midnight,” it was delightfully creepy; that was one of the most tense episode of the entire series. I also loved the sting at the end. Davies is on a roll. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/25 "2025-04-27T02:38:05Z")
Another possible Easter Egg for other another media franchise: mention of a “restraining bolt”. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/26 "2025-05-03T23:34:38Z")
I’m beginning to think it’s me: not a great episode. I’m okay with things not making sense if the ride is fun enough. But the basic bits made no sense (and yet were still telegraphed) and the ride was not much fun. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/27 "2025-05-04T00:53:29Z")
Total dud of an episode. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/28 "2025-05-04T01:10:36Z")
Gatwa is a lot of fun (his turn in _The Importance of Being Earnest_ was a joyful romp) but I’m finding the soapbox-du-jour annoying and the teardrop a forced motif. I didn’t mind a non-Doctor-focused show and the theme was an interesting one but dang did they apply it with a sledgehammer right to the end. The allusions to certain GOP rhetoric was disturbingly on point though. (I was also going to ask how they knew what the Shreek looked to make the costumes but I’ve just realized how.) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/29 "2025-05-04T02:19:30Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Who told him she was for mysterious reasons yet another most important woman for the universe? BTW, I think this may have been answered. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/30 "2025-05-04T02:20:51Z")
Bootstrapped. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/31 "2025-05-05T01:43:21Z")
I don’t know if it was a deliberate reference or just a coincidence, but a group called “Think Tank” were also the villains in Tom Baker’s first Doctor Who story, “Robot.” I’m leaning toward coincidence, because the two groups have almost nothing in common. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/32 "2025-05-06T12:24:07Z")
I though Conrad was possibly using Ruby to get close to the Doctor, but did not see the anti-UNIT aspect. When Conrad insulted Brigadier Sir Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart that was going too far, and I never wanted a character to suffer more\* Mrs Flood has been mysterious, but I think this is the most um, evil? we have seen her. Brian \* ok, maybe an exageration but boy was I cheering for his demise ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/33 "2025-05-08T01:26:34Z")
Yes. That was a line finely honed to enrage the long time fans - and it worked ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/34 "2025-05-10T22:03:20Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I’m beginning to think it’s me: not a great episode. > > I’m okay with things not making sense if the ride is fun enough. Whew. Glad to have an episode I love again! Yeah there are bits that don’t make sense, and other quibbles to be had, _but the ride is fun enough_! 😁 Staying with stories creating and powering reality as the arching theme. So what are we supposed to make of Mrs. Flood being in a story The Doctor tells of a story that Belinda maybe told him? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/35 "2025-05-11T00:04:21Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Glad to have an episode I love again! Well-crafted bottle episode. Stupid science, but that goes without saying. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/36 "2025-05-11T14:27:36Z")
Another good episode. I’ve been very impressed by the show since Davies came back. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/37 "2025-05-11T18:09:50Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Another good episode. I’ve been very impressed by the show since Davies came back Season 2(?) is better, but I found the back half of last night’s episode to be only OK. Liking the current Doctor, but both my wife and I thought he should have a moment where he says something like, “Wait…powered by stories…I haven’t seen this before. How interesting…” with a little twinkle in his eye that while dangerous and deadly, he is interested in something new. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/38 "2025-05-11T22:31:49Z")
I was amused both by the play on the term [story engine](https://screencraft.org/blog/what-is-a-story-engine-and-how-can-it-help-your-tv-pilot/) and the storytelling aspects of barbershops in some communities. (The WWW joke was best left in passing, I think.) Still fairly hamhanded in the racial soap boxing (not that the points aren’t valid, but they keep getting presented clunkily). That said, I’ve been waiting for some episodes set in Africa for years, although I thought maybe we’d get a Mansa Musa story first. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/39 "2025-05-16T07:25:08Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > although I thought maybe we’d get a Mansa Musa story first. With an initially brash and self-possessed Musa suddenly turning strangely humble and the Doctor remarking off-hand, “oh, I just gave him a tour of the TARDIS vault”… ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/40 "2025-05-17T21:10:33Z")
Sigh. I’ll keep it generic and no big spoilers in a first post after most recent ep. Lots to potentially like and stick for something mid credits. But, let’s just say _last_ week was great. Mixing up serious dark or horror with camp or comedic is definitely something that _can_ work. The mid credits bit is of course major but disappointing. I’m hoping that there is at least one more major reveal that ties together to the meta bits of stories creating reality and the fourth wall breaks. Was Captain Poppy being the spooky alley kid in the last ep, and Kid being from a planet where the Corporation destroyed everything for poppy flavoring into something sweet, just messing with us? Is RTD just having a giggle biting the Disney hand by metaphor, with Disney being the corporation, The Who brand being the flavor bought and put into treacle? Did Disney explicitly choose to cast a little person in a role that their condition was immaterial as a reaction to the whole Snow White kerfluffle? Again though. Short version. Sigh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923.md?page=3)