# Doctor Who season two (a/k/a season 15) spoilers OK after airing

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [April 11, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923 "2025-04-11T18:22:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> According to the final edit, she was mentioning Poppy constantly and it was edited out.

Was she? Or did the Doctor’s tweak to reality retcon Poppy’s existence and backstory?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/102 "2025-06-10T16:30:51Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Was she? Or did the Doctor’s tweak to reality retcon Poppy’s existence and backstory?.

Yes, that. So she wasn’t mentioning it until it became reality.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/103 "2025-06-10T18:31:25Z")

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To me it was clear that the past reality changed. But the fact that there are so many who are understanding it differently is not a tribute to this having been written anywhere in the universe as “well.”

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/104 "2025-06-10T21:09:09Z")

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Weirdly there were three characterizations for Belinda at play - very eager to get back home to her mom, very eager to travel everywhere with The Doctor and Poppy, snd happy at home with Poppy and her parents - why didn’t she worry sbout her parents in the middle stage (I mean, it’s not completely unreasonable, but it’s a bit whiplashy to have the parent-concern go away briefly)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/105 "2025-06-10T22:05:53Z")

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Normally I’d explain it by having her accept that the Doctor can get her back at precisely the right time, but the whole point of this was that he couldn’t.

It’s also a poor reason for her to walk away from being the companion, for the same reason: if he can get her back thirty seconds after she left, why on earth would that affect childcare for her daughter?

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/106 "2025-06-10T22:10:31Z")

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Traveling with the Doctor is risky - she has seen enough to know she might not come back at all

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/107 "2025-06-11T12:40:12Z")

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Historically, the Doctor’s ability to actually get people back to the right place “thirty seconds after they left” has been…iffy at best. That may be what the Doctor promises, but fulfillment of that promise has been less than stellar.

Am I being too literal, pedantic, “that-guy-ish” to hate the whole “mavity” thing largely because it makes no sense? Newton did not invent the word “gravity” out of thin air, so it’s not something that could be changed by a mis-hearing. “Gravity” comes from _gravitas_, the Latin word for “weight.” Indeed, the _Principia_, where Newton introduced his theory of universal gravitation, was in fact written in Latin. How could “mavity” possibly have snuck in?

I know, it’s foolish to take _Doctor Who_ too seriously about these things, but it bugs me. Not just because it’s annoying, but because it doesn’t stand up to logical scrutiny.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/108 "2025-06-11T13:15:55Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> because it doesn’t stand up to logical scrutiny.

That alone wouldn’t bother me. Very little in the show ever has! It was an attempt at a stupid gag that whiffed. It happens. But then they kept leaning in to it, as if it was actually at all funny, or significant. And every time they said it again it was instead something that pulled us as viewers out of the story of the moment with an “oh this stupid thing”.

I think many of us as longtime viewers tried really hard to give this show the benefit of the doubt this run: all these annoying bits would come together by the end. There would be a punchline worth the set ups. Nope. No punchline. They weren’t setting stuff up. Ah well.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/109 "2025-06-11T20:03:59Z")

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Like Mrs. Flood constantly breaking the 4th wall. Her being revealed to be a Time Person is _not_ an explanation for that.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/110 "2025-10-29T00:14:29Z")

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Disney has cut ties with Doctor Who. Seems like they felt it was quite the disaster, culminating with Gatwa quitting.

> **[Disney+ Officially Exiting ‘Doctor Who’ Partnership With BBC After Two Seasons](https://deadline.com/2025/10/doctor-who-disney-plus-pulling-out-bbc-christmas-special-1236600026/)**
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> Disney+ is pulling out of the 'Doctor Who' BBC deal after two seasons but the show will continue with a CHristmas special written by RUssell T Davies.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/111 "2026-06-10T22:28:59Z")

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> [@Deadline](#):
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> but the show will continue with a CHristmas special written by RUssell T Davies.

Nope.

> BBC cancels Doctor Who Christmas special and Russell T Davies announces exit

> **[Doctor Who: BBC cancels Christmas special and Russell T Davies announces...](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c621ln7vx7qo)**
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> The BBC said the decision was made "after careful consideration" and had "not been taken lightly".

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/112 "2026-06-10T23:49:20Z")

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Nonsensical cliffhanger now someone else’s problem.

I think the only way to fix that would be to have it be Rose trying to contact the Doctor from her dimension and she somehow managed to merge TARDISes in some kind of wacky way. With RTD I guess he could invent any dumb thing to explain it away. Now we won’t even have him to solve it.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-season-two-a-k-a-season-15-spoilers-ok-after-airing/1016923/113 "2026-06-11T00:31:21Z")

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I liked that the she is the heart of the Tardis taking the physical form of Rose, or The Bad Wolf … taking over or at least sharing The Doctor’s body … for reasons.

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