# Doctor Who September 20 2014 "Time Heist" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 20, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030 "2014-09-20T18:19:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030/61 "2014-09-27T01:23:06Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Was caught by the teleporters. I figured that’s what they were when the first one was used. Even though I expected them to return, when they returned was still a surprise. > [@](#): > > But he gives her his number so she can regret it when she’s older and call him so he can give her his telephone number? That might make sense if she didn’t know why he was there, or he hadn’t been the one to send her bank gig crashing into oblivion. Somehow it just feels wrong. Forced. Seems to me that the storm was responsible for the demise of the bank, not The Doctor. > [@grude](#): > > If there was an original timeline where the villain just left the bank and the Teller and his wife to die, how the hell did she get the doctors phone number? [fanwank warning] At some point prior to this episode, The Doctor heard that the Most Secure Bank in the Universe had gone silent, went to investigate, and found that the planet’s surface had been decimated by a storm. He then tracked down the adminstrator and gave her his number, telling her to call him if he had any regrets. This is why he knew had to go on this adventure when she called. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030/62 "2014-09-27T07:11:16Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Seems to me that the storm was responsible for the demise of the bank, not The Doctor. 😕 > [@](#): > > At some point prior to this episode, The Doctor heard that the Most Secure Bank in the Universe had gone silent, went to investigate, and found that the planet’s surface had been decimated by a storm. He then tracked down the adminstrator and gave her his number, telling her to call him if he had any regrets. This is why he knew had to go on this adventure when she called. But then he wouldn’t have needed to give her his number now, because he’ll do it later. Moffat was trying to close the loop, but it just felt hamhanded and nonsensical. ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030/63 "2014-09-27T14:15:34Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Well, yeah, it is more interesting, because it’s James “motherfucking Spike” Marsters. 🆒 I agree with this assessment of the situation. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030/64 "2014-09-28T17:24:37Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > 😕 The planet was being hit by the largest solar storm it had ever encountered, causing everyone on the surface to flee the planet or be burned to death. > [@](#): > > But then he wouldn’t have needed to give her his number now, because he’ll do it later. He doesn’t know that due to the memory wipe. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030/65 "2014-09-28T17:46:44Z")
Missed the edit window. Right before one of the crowd scenes, there was the implication that the storm was also burning buildings. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030/66 "2014-09-28T17:50:56Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > I figured that’s what they were when the first one was used. Even though I expected them to return, when they returned was still a surprise.Seems to me that the storm was responsible for the demise of the bank, not The Doctor. > > [fanwank warning] > > At some point prior to this episode, The Doctor heard that the Most Secure Bank in the Universe had gone silent, went to investigate, and found that the planet’s surface had been decimated by a storm. He then tracked down the adminstrator and gave her his number, telling her to call him if he had any regrets. This is why he knew had to go on this adventure when she called. But why? How would the Doctor have known about the Teller creatures then? And didn’t the memory worms just wipe out the last 24-48 hours or something? Everyone seemed to remember who they were, just not how they got there or why. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030/67 "2014-09-28T18:30:40Z")
> [@grude](#): > > But why? How would the Doctor have known about the Teller creatures then? Perhaps he visited the vault and found a corpse. > [@](#): > > And didn’t the memory worms just wipe out the last 24-48 hours or something? Everyone seemed to remember who they were, just not how they got there or why. Except the Doctor, who was presumably responsible for placing the cases ahead of time. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030/68 "2014-09-28T18:43:25Z")
I mean, the Doctor must have had knowledge of the massive solar storm at one point in his past but not when carrying out the heist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-september-20-2014-time-heist/699030.md?page=3)