# Doctor Who Series 10 ongoing discussion (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 16, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543 "2017-04-16T03:38:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/21 "2017-04-17T17:31:55Z")
Am I the only one that thought that the “hottest fire in the universe” was going to be the “destruction” of Gallifrey? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/22 "2017-04-17T17:42:50Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Am I the only one that thought that the “hottest fire in the universe” was going to be the “destruction” of Gallifrey? That’s where I figured he was going (my wife recognized the Movellans). ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/23 "2017-04-17T17:45:36Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > My cable went out right near the end(?). How much happened after he decided not to wipe Bill’s memory and then she ran outside and saw him with the Tardis? She got in the T.A.R.D.I.S. That’s all you missed. OK, so she asked, “What changed your mind?” and he said, “Time.” Then she got in. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/24 "2017-04-17T20:17:27Z")
> [@Algernon](#): > > :smack: :smack: :smack: I can be so dense sometimes. > > BTW, I know that it is just my problem but I had a really difficult time understanding Bill’s accent, and I normally don’t have any issues with Brits (or Kiwi’s or Aussies either). Is her accent uncommon? I didn’t get the Doctor going back to take the photos either. Guess I’ll have to re-watch that scene. I also found Bill’s accent very hard to understand, and I almost never have trouble when watching British TV shows. > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Am I the only one that thought that the “hottest fire in the universe” was going to be the “destruction” of Gallifrey? That’s where I thought they were going as well, especially when we heard the Daleks. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/25 "2017-04-17T22:50:48Z")
I liked this episode. The Doctor’s been going through such angst lately it was good to see a more lighthearted story. But I couldn’t believe Bill was foolish enough to lean over when she saw Heather’s face in the puddle on the other planet! ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/26 "2017-04-17T23:02:21Z")
> [@Cayuga](#): > > She got in the T.A.R.D.I.S. That’s all you missed. > > OK, so she asked, “What changed your mind?” and he said, “Time.” Then she got in. Speaking of the TARDIS, when was the last time anyone has spelled out the acronym - has that ever been done in the NewWho era? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/27 "2017-04-17T23:09:50Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Speaking of the TARDIS, when was the last time anyone has spelled out the acronym - has that ever been done in the NewWho era? Pretty sure it gets mentioned at least once with every new companion. I did like Bill calling out the fact that acronyms don’t really work with universal translators. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/28 "2017-04-17T23:11:20Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Speaking of the TARDIS, when was the last time anyone has spelled out the acronym - has that ever been done in the NewWho era? Never mind - this article [TARDIS - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDIS#cite_note-8) says the acronym has been spelled out a few times in NuWho, most recently in “The Doctor’s Wife.” ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/29 "2017-04-17T23:51:06Z")
> [@c\_carol](#): > > Well, I mean, yeah. > > The Dalek battle was a little silly, I admit, but I didn’t mind. It had Movellans in it, how could you not like that? I suppose my problem with it is that if “let’s get in the Tardis and run a long way away” is going to be proffered as a solution to every alien menace, episodes are going to be awfully short now. ---
**Author:** ![DCTrekkie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dctrekkie/32/18862_2.png) [@DCTrekkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCTrekkie)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/30 "2017-04-18T00:22:16Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Am I the only one that thought that the “hottest fire in the universe” was going to be the “destruction” of Gallifrey? It wasn’t far off. As the Tardis lands you can hear Daleks in the distance shouting “The Doctor is detected! Seek! Locate! Destroy!” which is them finding the War Doctor on Galifrey from the 50th anniversary special, just before he comes flying through the wall at them. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/31 "2017-04-18T00:36:35Z")
> [@Cayuga](#): > > She got in the T.A.R.D.I.S. That’s all you missed. > > OK, so she asked, “What changed your mind?” and he said, “Time.” Then she got in. More completely he said (with maybe another word or two in there): “Time … time … and relative dimension in space.” IOW that the Tardis convinced him. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/32 "2017-04-18T01:24:21Z")
another reason he chose Bill - “When you hear someting you don’t understand - you smile” ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/33 "2017-04-18T02:58:07Z")
> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#): > > Big fan of Bill so far. I saw an article online that gave quick capsule summaries of the rest of the episodes in the season and it looks like it’s going to be a good one! Apparently Kris Marshall is going to be the next Doctor, which I’m not sure about. I’ve not exactly been following the guy’s career, but I’ve only ever seen him acting like a goofball in subpar sitcoms, which doesn’t bode well. He stammers and looks confused a lot in frothy whodunnit in pretty location _Death_ _In_ _Paradise_, which doesn’t bode particularly well. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/34 "2017-04-18T08:18:34Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > Liked Bill, the first 45 minutes was a good blend of fun and creepy, then the wheels fell off in the last quarter when they flew off in the Tardis to try and shake off Puddleglum. I mean, I know Unity of Place has never been a defining characteristic of Doctor Who, but running off to Dalek battle was just pointlessly random. They needed to keep the creepy claustrophobia they had in the bathroom scene in her flat, which was nicely scary, and they threw it away so Bill got to have a jaunt in the Tardis. Moffatt can’t leave soon enough. I hear what you say, but this was clearly a “new viewers start here” episode\*, so I think they really needed to include a scene introducing the Tardis and what it can do. \*Made explicit by the title: only a series about time travel could have episode #828 as “The Pilot”. Moffat must have been giggling to himself all day when he thought of that. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/35 "2017-04-18T09:19:41Z")
That location in Sydney, Australia is [a real place](https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.850095,151.2151434,3a,75y,197.43h,76.51t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s-gZCP6QsC7YY%2FWPDUsv0QjJI%2FAAAAAAAARK4%2FaDxRhBTBvXgjGQMqgdnbtGmLtJmX6sg4gCLIB!2e4!3e11!6s%2F%2Flh4.googleusercontent.com%2F-gZCP6QsC7YY%2FWPDUsv0QjJI%2FAAAAAAAARK4%2FaDxRhBTBvXgjGQMqgdnbtGmLtJmX6sg4gCLIB%2Fw203-h100-k-no-pi0-ya1.7892232-ro-0-fo100%2F!7i11264!8i3652!6m1!1e1) you can go, frequently photographed, but not exactly the tourist hotspot it implied. Though there is [a water taxi stop](https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.8499185,151.2139463,3a,75y,220.9h,78.72t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s-SEGd44DKPRY%2FVwwQuh2LlXI%2FAAAAAAADSVc%2Fam8omBQj9O0UoyacZ2XhFqgHwy9doMnoACLIB!2e4!3e11!6s%2F%2Flh6.googleusercontent.com%2F-SEGd44DKPRY%2FVwwQuh2LlXI%2FAAAAAAADSVc%2Fam8omBQj9O0UoyacZ2XhFqgHwy9doMnoACLIB%2Fw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya105.827774-ro-0-fo100%2F!7i8704!8i4352!6m1!1e1) a little ways away, which is probably what they decided to pretend it was. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/36 "2017-04-23T04:05:05Z")
Well, that (“Smile”) was one of the weakest they’ve had in a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/37 "2017-04-23T15:51:31Z")
Haven’t seen ‘Smile’ yet, but ‘Pilot’ made me think about the **“All those quarries”** comment in the Rowan Atkinson comedy Doctor Who video. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/38 "2017-04-23T20:06:32Z")
Can someone remind me about the vault he referred to and why he’s supposed to remain on Earth? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/39 "2017-04-23T20:09:47Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Can someone remind me about the vault he referred to and why he’s supposed to remain on Earth? I think that these are mysteries that will be resolved in the current season. I could hazard guesses, but would most likely end up looking foolish once it is revealed. Dseid, what was weak about it? I haven’t seen it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/40 "2017-04-23T21:31:23Z")
I didn’t mind it, but I think this season they’re going for a Russell T Davies, David Tennant and Martha vibe, except that they can’t quite pull off the cheery spontaneity - and fresh-faced and wide-eyed isn’t Capaldi’s strong suit - so it feels rather forced. Also that one looked really cheap, like they blew the production budget on the robots and had nothing left for the city mattes. I mean, the hydroponic garden set wouldn’t have looked amiss in a Peter Davison episode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543.md?page=3)