# Doctor Who Series 10 ongoing discussion (open spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 16, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543 "2017-04-16T03:38:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/81 "2017-05-07T18:56:49Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> I really like River too, and I really like Bill, but I’m getting more of a Susan vibe from her (the way they keep emphasizing the “grandfather” thing, and the fact that the Doctor has a photo of her on his desk. I wonder if she isn’t somehow going to end up being a future regeneration of Susan.

Well Bill did say the Doctor was her grandfather (although undoubtedly she was just making it up, it could be true!)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/82 "2017-05-07T19:55:13Z")

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So two of the first three episodes of this season involve buildings made out of bugs, so to speak, killing people. Will they complete the trifecta? STAY TUNED!!!

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/83 "2017-05-07T21:20:39Z")

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> [@TwoCarrotSnowman](#):
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> I missed that little detail.

And the _Fur Elise_ after Eliza died…

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/84 "2017-05-08T11:18:58Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> So two of the first three episodes of this season involve buildings made out of bugs, so to speak, killing people. Will they complete the trifecta? STAY TUNED!!!

While the previous episode reflected “The Beast Below,” this one echoes “The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances” - it’s got misrepresented family relationships, a child’s love of his mother motivating the villain, and a resolution in which (almost) “everybody lives!” I liked it.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/85 "2017-05-08T11:40:33Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> While the previous episode reflected “The Beast Below,” this one echoes “The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances” - it’s got misrepresented family relationships, a child’s love of his mother motivating the villain, and a resolution in which (almost) “everybody lives!” I liked it.

Also, some kind of ‘bugs’ (the nanites/wood lice) healing somebody, but getting it wrong.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/86 "2017-05-08T13:05:56Z")

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I liked the episode too. It was fun when the Doctor said, “Infestation of the Dryads”, which is what it would have been called had it been a Classic Doctor Who episode. Sort of a call back.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/87 "2017-05-08T14:23:02Z")

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I was kind of hoping that the other sets of absorbed people were going to be resurrected as well - but I guess their energy had been used up.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/88 "2017-05-08T14:55:42Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I was kind of hoping that the other sets of absorbed people were going to be resurrected as well - but I guess their energy had been used up.

Yeah, me too.

What happened to all the space bugs in the end? And shouldn’t all the trees have fallen down as well?

[Also - the reaction from my musician friends is “Who the hell carries an F tuning fork?”]

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/89 "2017-05-08T16:06:04Z")

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So, you were eaten by bugs, then re-created by them.

Are you still you, or just a recreation of you?

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/90 "2017-05-08T18:40:37Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> So, you were eaten by bugs, then re-created by them.
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> Are you still you, or just a recreation of you?

If you’re a crew member of the Enterprise and you use the transporter to beam down to a planet’s surface – essentially being disintegrated on a molecular level and reassembled; were you just killed and revived? Is it the same you, or have random molecules been reassembled into the same structural pattern, essentially making a duplicate of you?

(Best not to think about it.)

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**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/91 "2017-05-08T18:59:00Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> Well Bill did say the Doctor was her grandfather (although undoubtedly she was just making it up, it could be true!)

She could also be his _great_granddaughter which would make more sense about what we already know about her mother.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/92 "2017-05-08T20:06:45Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> I liked the episode too. It was fun when the Doctor said, “Infestation of the Dryads”, which is what it would have been called had it been a Classic Doctor Who episode. Sort of a call back.

“Sleep is for tortoises” was a Tom Baker line from The Talons of Weng-Chiang, as well.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/93 "2017-05-09T00:49:16Z")

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Is it wrong that I don’t find Bill…to my taste? I mean, this is nothing new for me (see Rose and Donna). ☹

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/94 "2017-05-09T15:35:23Z")

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I haven’t really hooked onto to Bill yet. Maybe with time.

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**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/95 "2017-05-09T20:40:40Z")

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> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#):
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> She could also be his _great_granddaughter which would make more sense about what we already know about her mother.

What do we know of her mother? All I can recall is that sge died when Bill was very young.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/96 "2017-05-10T00:45:24Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I haven’t really hooked onto to Bill yet. Maybe with time.

Me either. I find her a bit gormless and annoying.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/97 "2017-05-10T00:50:38Z")

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Xfinity stopped recording while Doc was encouraging his guest to join him for dinner. Was there a big reveal?

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**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/98 "2017-05-10T15:02:14Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Xfinity stopped recording while Doc was encouraging his guest to join him for dinner. Was there a big reveal?

Nope, just a tease. He opened the vault and walked in, but we didn’t get a look at the inside.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/99 "2017-05-10T15:33:01Z")

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No. He just opens the vault and starts to head in. Credits.  
I was thinking it must be a nastie beastie in the vault he is keeping locked up but now I agree that it’s probably The Master or at least some other known character he already knows.

Nin Jarred by Meltdown.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-10-ongoing-discussion-open-spoilers/784543/100 "2017-05-10T19:05:51Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> No. He just opens the vault and starts to head in. Credits.  
> I was thinking it must be a nastie beastie in the vault he is keeping locked up but now I agree that it’s probably The Master or at least some other known character he already knows.
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> Nin Jarred by Meltdown.

It’s Pete. He keeps Pete in the vault.

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