# Doctor Who Series 7

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 27, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859 "2012-08-27T21:04:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/101 "2012-09-04T16:22:50Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> . . . The use of “eggs” was particularly brilliant.  
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I loved that, in her mind, Oswin had shifted her looming doom into a bad pun.

Burned souffle = eggs-terminate.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/102 "2012-09-05T22:14:56Z")

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I totally did not make that connection. Thanks for pointing it out. Makes sense now.

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**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/103 "2012-09-07T01:46:18Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> _The Evil of the Daleks_ has the Daleks experimenting with extracting human essence to complement themselves, and that is a Troughton-era story. Unfortunately, it now only exists in audio form, with some pictures.

Not quite. Episode 2 survives.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/104 "2012-09-07T02:28:46Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I totally did not make that connection. Thanks for pointing it out. Makes sense now.

I didn’t catch it while I was watching. It came later.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/105 "2012-09-07T02:31:39Z")

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Took a while to hatch, huh?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/106 "2012-09-07T04:37:01Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> I loved that, in her mind, Oswin had shifted her looming doom into a bad pun.
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> Burned souffle = eggs-terminate.

[I love humans. Always seeing patterns in things that aren’t there.](http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eighth_Doctor)

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**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/107 "2012-09-08T19:47:21Z")

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Spoilers 🙂

[spoiler] I loved Mitchell & Webb as the very HHGTTG style, robot double act. And Amy claiming to be a Queen with a straight face.

And the Doctor gleefully shouting that he still has a Christmas list 🙂 [/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/108 "2012-09-08T20:03:20Z")

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Someone threw all their childhood fantasies at that one, didn’t they? The Doctor! Dinosaurs! Comedy robots! Indiana Jones! (well, sort of).

It was a very silly episode, but I really enjoyed it.

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**Author:** ![Galwegian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galwegian/32/3426_2.png) [@Galwegian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galwegian)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/109 "2012-09-08T20:39:26Z")

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That was ace. Rory’s dad was awesome. “What kind of man doesn’t carry a trowel?” Heh!

Was that the first time we saw Matt do the vengeful Doctor? Not bad, but not a patch on Tennant in _Family of Blood_.

Also: Indian Space Agency! The new UNIT?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/110 "2012-09-08T20:51:38Z")

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> [@Galwegian](#):
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> That was ace. Rory’s dad was awesome. “What kind of man doesn’t carry a trowel?”

Somebody knows where his trowel is.

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**Author:** ![Slade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@Slade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slade)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/111 "2012-09-08T22:41:09Z")

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When the Dr & Amy were handling stage one’s “multi-tasking”, what was it Amy said to him that made him reply “promise - really promise”? I played it back three times on the DVR but I still couldn’t catch it - and the fact that that they stared at each other in silence for a moment afterwards suggested we were supposed to find it significant.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/112 "2012-09-09T01:14:01Z")

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Surprised that the Doctor didn’t meet Rory’s Dad at the Pond’s wedding. Did a different actor play his Dad in that? I should look into that.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/113 "2012-09-09T01:25:24Z")

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> [@Slade](#):
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> When the Dr & Amy were handling stage one’s “multi-tasking”, what was it Amy said to him that made him reply “promise - really promise”?

“I think you’re weaning us off you.”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/114 "2012-09-09T02:16:43Z")

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Damn. This show may have lost my daughter as a fan. She’s still crying over the dead dinosaur - Mom is with her, trying to calm her down.

Not good.

And I thought the Doctor wasn’t supposed to resort to violence?

This was a great episode until they ripped every kids heart out by killing that dinosaur. Damned shame.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/115 "2012-09-09T03:40:51Z")

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The Doctor didn’t kill the dinosaur. The Evil Space Pirate–or one of his robots–did…

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/116 "2012-09-09T04:18:28Z")

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But the Doctor _did_ kill Solomon. Bit jarring, I thought.

Now, who’s up for a rousing game of “Spot the Pop Culture References”? Snakes On A Plane, Jurassic Park, Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy… how many more did _you_ see?

Funny in parts, but I found it overly cute. Amy and Rory are eeeever so slowly starting to drift towards one dimensionality.

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**Author:** ![CorneaGenii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@CorneaGenii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CorneaGenii)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/117 "2012-09-09T05:15:16Z")

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Can someone please help with a line that’s been bugging me from “Asylum of the Daleks”?

Stuff spoilered, just in case…

When the platform is raised and the Doctor tells them they are in the Parliament of the Daleks,  
Amy asks “What do we do?” to which the Doctor replies “Make them remember you.”. Does that line ever get explained, or did I miss something crucial? It made no sense to me, because it didn’t seem to go anywhere.

It also reminded me strongly of “Flesh and Stone” when the Doctor tells Amy “Remember what I told you when you were seven.”…“You have to remember.”. Turned out to be foreshadowing one of the time twists Moffat seems fond of using. Was this something similar, despite the “no over-arching storylines this time” bit?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/118 "2012-09-09T05:33:43Z")

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> [@CorneaGenii](#):
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> Does that line ever get explained, or did I miss something crucial? It made no sense to me, because it didn’t seem to go anywhere.

He thought the Daleks intended to kill them (which they did, but he thought they intended to do it _then and there_), and had no idea how to get them out of it. So, he’s telling them - make it good. Make it so you’re not just two more out of any number of humans who’ve been cut down. Make them _remember_ **this** kill.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/119 "2012-09-09T05:56:30Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> But the Doctor _did_ kill Solomon. Bit jarring, I thought.
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> Now, who’s up for a rousing game of “Spot the Pop Culture References”? Snakes On A Plane, Jurassic Park, Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy… how many more did _you_ see?
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> Funny in parts, but I found it overly cute. Amy and Rory are eeeever so slowly starting to drift towards one dimensionality.

I think there was a short shot of one of the two robots singing “Daisy, Daisy”, which, IIRC, was the song that HAL 9000 sang in 2001: A Space Odyssey. I would have reviewed the episode, but I didn’t want my daughter to start crying again.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-7/632859/120 "2012-09-09T09:37:50Z")

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A Victorian gentleman explorer and game hunter, with antiquated ideas about gender roles, who enjoys a stiff drink, a big gun, and a grossly outmatched fight.

Wait a minute… [didn’t I _create_ this character back in May?](http://www.scp-wiki.net/from-the-diaries-of-lord-blackwood)

DAMMIT STEVEN MOFFAT STOP STEALING MY IDEAS.

(Well, either that or he and I were drawing on the same archetype.) 🙂

On an unrelated note, the writer of this episode, Chris Chibnall, also wrote the Human Nature/Family of Blood two-parter, which could explain the return of the Vengeful Doctor.

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