# Doctor Who - Series Six - Part II **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 24, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860 "2011-08-24T03:38:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/181 "2011-09-06T22:12:17Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Yes, I got the same ‘rushed’ feeling. Plus, the whole conflict seemed to be resolved by the Doctor just prompting the kid to ‘face his fear’, which then he just did, and all came out alright. There seemed to be no growth in the kid in order to enable him to confront what previously he could only deal with by psychically locking it into a cupboard. (True, there was growth in the relationship between the father and his ‘son’ – what exactly did the Doctor say he was again? – but this seemed largely a separate issue to me.) Did the Doctor say what George was? In a sense it doesn’t matter, he’s just a McGuffin, but it’s another loose end (“I might be back around puberty, that can be a difficult time” - approximate quote, sorry). I don’t particularly care for loose ends. Roddy ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/182 "2011-09-06T22:16:50Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Did the Doctor say what George was? In a sense it doesn’t matter, he’s just a McGuffin, but it’s another loose end (“I might be back around puberty, that can be a difficult time” - approximate quote, sorry). I don’t particularly care for loose ends. > Roddy That line confused me a bit (until I remembered I was watching a TV show 😉 ). I was thinking - “You’re a time traveler. Why wait?” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/183 "2011-09-06T23:13:30Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Did the Doctor say what George was? The Doctor: George is a Tenza. Of course he is. Alex: He’s a what? The Doctor: A cuckoo. A cuckoo in a nest. A Tenza. He’s a Tenza. Millions of them hatch in space and then—woof—off they drift, looking for a nest. The Tenza young can sense exactly what their foster parents want and then they assimilate perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/184 "2011-09-06T23:37:04Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > The Doctor: George is a Tenza. Of course he is. > Alex: He’s a what? > The Doctor: A cuckoo. A cuckoo in a nest. A Tenza. He’s a Tenza. Millions of them hatch in space and then—woof—off they drift, looking for a nest. The Tenza young can sense exactly what their foster parents want and then they assimilate perfectly. Wow, I missed that completely; I vaguely remember something about a cuckoo, but that’s it. And George wasn’t really what they wanted (except he was a baby and they wanted a baby) and he didn’t exactly assimilate, since his fears caused such problems. Oh, well, one learns not to nit-pick the Doctor. Roddy ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/185 "2011-09-07T00:04:46Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Did the Doctor say what George was? In a sense it doesn’t matter, he’s just a McGuffin, but it’s another loose end (“I might be back around puberty, that can be a difficult time” - approximate quote, sorry). I don’t particularly care for loose ends. > Roddy Did he say that he’d be back at puberty? I’ll thought he told Alex to watch out for puberty, because… Wuff, that’ll be a difficult time. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/186 "2011-09-07T01:48:56Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Did he say that he’d be back at puberty? I’ll thought he told Alex to watch out for puberty, because… Wuff, that’ll be a difficult time. “I might pop back around puberty, mind you. Always a funny time.” ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/187 "2011-09-07T02:49:27Z")
Of course, with time travel and all, he could pop back tomorrow or in 200 years, relative to him. ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/188 "2011-09-07T10:32:05Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > “I might pop back around puberty, mind you. Always a funny time.” I thought he said “_It_ might pop back” - as in the condition. ---
**Author:** ![Galwegian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galwegian/32/3426_2.png) [@Galwegian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galwegian)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/189 "2011-09-07T10:49:35Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Doctor Who’s real name. Thanks to youtube. > > Start at about 1 minute in. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADJRkS30TG0&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADJRkS30TG0&feature=related) I’m sure that I read somewhere that the Doctor claimed Theta Sigma was his old college nickname, and not his real name. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/190 "2011-09-07T17:25:02Z")
> [@Candyman74](#): > > I thought he said “_It_ might pop back” - as in the condition. Hmm, that makes sense, too, but FWIW, I checked the closed captioning (like that’s never wrong) and it says ‘I’ as well. ---
**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/191 "2011-09-07T18:18:39Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Wow, I missed that completely; I vaguely remember something about a cuckoo, but that’s it. And George wasn’t really what they wanted (except he was a baby and they wanted a baby) and he didn’t exactly assimilate, since his fears caused such problems. Oh, well, one learns not to nit-pick the Doctor. > Roddy I think he he just had regular fears, and his parents tried to be all parental and told him to just “put them in the cupboard”, thinking that would help him cope. It would probably work for a normal kid. But his fears started coming to life, and he heard his parents talking about sending him away for some help, but he misunderstood them and REALLY started freaking out. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/192 "2011-09-07T23:05:45Z")
> [@Galwegian](#): > > I’m sure that I read somewhere that the Doctor claimed Theta Sigma was his old college nickname, and not his real name. And just to illustrate the terrifying way Moffat’s genius works, River’s message to the Doctor (the one she carved on the cliff) starts with a theta and a sigma. (Or so says one of the Doctor Who panels at Dragon Con. I haven’t gone back to check.) Maybe the Doctor was in a frat at Gallifrey U.? ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/193 "2011-09-07T23:47:40Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > And just to illustrate the terrifying way Moffat’s genius works, River’s message to the Doctor (the one she carved on the cliff) starts with a theta and a sigma. [Interesting](http://i53.tinypic.com/28cg11w.jpg)… So it does. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/194 "2011-09-08T16:28:19Z")
> [@{New Dr Who Season, UK pace} \[edited title\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/741): > > I’m not emotional, it just gets irritating to have people bang on about things that the insist are important when there’s no clear reason to think that (how many times did people bring up the absence of ducks in the pond in Prisoner Zero as some big hidden mystery that would eventually be revealed?). The missing ducks was actually referred to in a later episode, the one with the Angels in the Byzantium. I think it was a reflection on the crack making them go bye-bye. > [@hermette](#): > > So… did they ever let Hitler out of the cupboard? I don’t think the Doctor and company did. Why should they? Someone would be along eventually, wondering where the Furher is and why he hasn’t come to dinner. > [@](#): > > And why didn’t The Doctor eat the fish fingers and custard to save himself? I don’t think that was being proposed as a cure, rather it was being dropped in as a psychological crutch. The interface was busy repeating that it wasn’t Amy just an interface, and he kept crying for something, and it finally gave him a psychological edge that allowed him to get up off his arse, get the tux on, and stroll back out for the rest of the exchange with the Tesselecta. > [@](#): > > And why weren’t the Ponds miniaturised when the Tardis collected them? Explicitly stated that they were miniturized and being held that way by a containment field. When removed from the containment field, they reverted. > [@GuanoLad](#): > > Answers given in this episode include: > > [spoiler] > [ul] > [li]Melody is conceived in the TARDIS so has been affected by it to be a Time Lady, or something close to it.[/li][li]She is kidnapped and trained to be a killer.[/li][li]When still a child she is sent to kill the Doctor in Utah, apparently by the Silence.[/li][li]Achieves goal.[/li][li]Ends up back in Washington where she sends a message to the President to try and save her, but was probably intended as some kind of trap.[/li][li]Trap failed to achieve anything, so child Melody escapes.[/li][li]Soon afterward, perhaps because of not having the life support of the spacesuit, in New York she regenerates for the first time.[/li][/ul] I think your sequence is slightly off. She called Richard Nixon because the scary spaceman was coming to get her. Then it ate her. Then she presumably goes off to Utah. Then she gets shot at by Amy. Then she breaks out of the spacesuit. > [@Nobody](#): > > The sudden introduction of Mels/River seemed kind of jarring. Also, why did the people controlling the robot just let Amy use her sonic screwdriver to shut off their wrist devices? No-one fought to stop her or anything. Agreed on both. Suddenly there’s this best friend of Amy’s we’ve never even heard of before? And the sonic screwdriver thing also bugged me. She operates the screwdriver just by thinking. She thinks to turn off her own wristband, thinks to turn off the whole ship’s wristbands. Seems obvious to me to turn back on Rory and her wristbands. Maybe she was flustered and didn’t think straight, but that was a simple solution overlooked to put them in imminent danger so [del]River[/del] Melody could save them. > [@JohnT](#): > > Which Amy was in this episode: real Amy or Milk Amy? The beginning of this episode in the field occurs some months after Demons Run. That’s the point of the crop circle. They whine that he’s been gone and no word, so they had to get his attention. And he says he he knows she’ll be fine, which means he hasn’t found her yet. So it’s real Amy, not Ganger Amy. > [@Quercus](#): > > My first thought was that it felt like things resolved too quickly, actually. > > The 30-second transformation from psycopath-Melody to ethical River seemed a bit quick, just on an emotional level, and storytellingwise, it felt like everything was wrapped up a little too quickly. Agreed. Instant about face from homocidal psychopath on a rampage to saving the Doctor (“Is he worth it?”). Didn’t feel earned. > [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > (Although I’m not happy about these “best of” specials BBCamerica is running. Clip shows have their uses; they explain things for the newbies & people just getting back into the show. And I don’t mind seeing a few Crowning Moments re-run. But how did they pick the “Whovians” making comments? Where did they dig up these “celebrities?” All losers. Except for Mark Sheppard, of course.) The Whovians all appear to be at some Who convention. They apparently found a convention and hit up any random person they saw in a Doctor Who outfit. I did enjoy a few of the costumes. Some took good pains to pick a Doctor incarnation they matched. Also, interesting take on ladies dressing as the TARDIS - Blue dress, lamp on hat. There were at least 3 versions of that. > [@aceplace57](#): > > I did watch this episode after all. It was a strange one. Robots with people inside. I noticed early that Mel acted just like River, but was fooled because she’s black. I didn’t notice early, but yes, this is River with all of her worst characteristics on parade. Her arrogance, her aggressiveness. > [@](#): > > My big issue with this episode is the Doctor’s reaction to the alien time police or whatever they were. Usually the Doctor is very protective of time and consequences of altering it. Especially fixed points in time. I’d think Hitler would be a fixed point. So much history revolves around the aftermath of WWII. Doctor had almost no reaction at all to the time police and their plans to kill infamous bad people. Sure he was poisoned and busy dying, but he could have said something later. He did say something about “I’d ask who you think you are, but that seems obvious.” Seems a comment about them playing God. But yes, he ultimately didn’t end up doing enough to stop them as a group. Sure, the Teselecta was interrupted and hijacked, but they had a “mother ship” to beam to, and even though he stopped the torturing of River, that seems as far as it went this time. > [@Galwegian](#): > > I also loved the scene with River attempting to repeatedly shoot the Doctor, and being foiled in advance. That was somewhat fun, a bit spoiled by the obviousness. In the scene where Melody stands up and spreads her legs, Hello Benjamin, she’s standing near the chair. Later we’re shown her reach over and pick up Hitler’s pistol. But she wasn’t that close to the chair - I watched it again - and her hand moved down something like 8 inches to retrieve the gun. No way that was subtlely done while they were looking at her. Similar thing with the gun/banana. I did enjoy the exchange of wits and the trying to outmaneuver each other. > [@Nobody](#): > > I don’t remember the comment about meeting her at the wrong point in her time-line. That was The Doctor trying to explain to Amy and Rory that she was a psychopath, not the relatively tame Archeologist they knew from later. I don’t think it was intended as any kind of comment on a particular sequence of running into her, just that it was early in her history, and therefore she was a much different person than they knew later. > [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > So, the haphazard and out-of-nowhere introduction of Mels was either very bad writing – or there’s another thing hidden here. The whole ‘Oh, her? She’s like my BFF from childhood who is like vitally important to me and Rory and us being together, and stuff, and oh, why didn’t I mention her, well must’ve slipped my mind’-thing just didn’t ring true at all, so I’m keeping my faith in the writing and make the wild guess that there hadn’t been a Mels prior to her introduction. Time can be rewritten is kinda the whole message of this thing, so maybe it was, and now includes Amy’s childhood-friend Mels when earlier, it didn’t. The whole BFF-montage scene seemed like memories being created after a change in the past, see e.g. _Butterfly Effect_. Putting this into an episode playing on essentially the quintessential changing-the-past trope – killing Hitler – would only make sense. I’ll try to give this a go - as suggested, the whole “Dawn has been here the whole time” thing. > [@JohnT](#): > > \*Speaking of which, we have been told that Amy’s imaginary “raggedy doctor” resulted in psychologist bills, years of therapy, etc. But now we have a character who, since grade school-on, who has not only believed Amy but has been rather vocal about it? A character described as their best friend who didn’t even bother to go to their wedding? You would think Amy, at one time or other, would say to the Doctor “Can we see my friend Mel? She’s the only one who supported and believed me all these years, and it would mean so much to her, and etc…” Yep, part of why it doesn’t ring true. > [@fluiddruid](#): > > Actually, this isn’t speculation. The Doctor himself expressly stated later on that this was indeed what she said: > > “There’s only one reason I would ever tell anyone my name. There’s only one time I could.” I got the impression that would be during sex. > [@Tengu](#): > > 1. That’s been bugging me, too. Although the thing that’s REALLY bugging me is why nobody seemed to notice all the Swastikas until they saw Hitler’s face. Swastikas are swastikas, doesn’t mean they are facing an infamous legend of history. Could have been any place in NAZI Germany with any random NAZI. I watched _Let’s Kill Hitler_ twice. Seems a lot was revealed, but more not. Like The Silence. So we learn that they are a political/religious group (not species) who believe that when the essential question is asked, the Silence will Fall. Now the Doctor jumps over what is to me the most essential question: what the hell does that mean? What is the Silence Falling? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Is that like all knowledge will depart the universe? Nobody will be able to talk? Their political movement will fail in it’s endeavor (to keep the Silence from Falling)? That seems too circuitous. So I really want to know what the hell it is supposed to mean. But no, the Doctor jumps over that and asks what the essential question is. Well of course they aren’t going to tell you. If the Silence Falling is a good thing, and they know the question,then they’ll ask the damn question and commence with the falling silence. If it’s a bad thing and they know the question, why would they tell you the question? So you can ask the question, the very thing they are trying to prevent? Duh, of course they aren’t going to tell you the question. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/195 "2011-09-08T20:32:07Z")
Last season (series if you’re British), or was it the season/series before, when the TARDIS blew up, destroying the universe, right before that happened, the doctor heard, “Silence will fall.” I wonder if it means it already happened and the TARDIS destroying the universe is silence falling. Probably not, but unless it turns out to be a distinct event, I’m keeping that as a possibility. After all, what’s more timy-wimy than trying to stop an event, you later found out already happened? ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/196 "2011-09-10T18:17:53Z")
New Doctor Who tonight and it looks like a good one. A spoiler free review from io9: > [@](#): > > And by spoiler free, I really mean “spoiler free.” There will be vague generalizations, but no plot information. This review assumes you’ve watched all of the already-aired episodes of both shows, but that you haven’t even seen a trailer or synopsis for either of the new episodes. With that out of the way… > [@](#): > > “The Girl Who Waited” feels like the kind of story that showrunner Steven Moffat used to write, when he was doing standalone episodes instead of writing a huge arc: it’s got an outlandish premise that opens up a twisty, timey-wimey conundrum, which in turn puts Amy and Rory in the middle of a huge dilemma. As a bonus, it’s also a really strong emotional episode in which you really believe that Amy and Rory are a couple. This story puts the relationship between Amy and Rory back at the center of the show, where it belongs. [http://io9.com/5838757/weve-seen-this-weekends-doctor-who-and-torchwoo%20d-episodes](http://io9.com/5838757/weve-seen-this-weekends-doctor-who-and-torchwoo%20d-episodes) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/197 "2011-09-10T19:03:52Z")
I won’t say more until our US friends have seen it, but OMFG. Manly tears. It’s a slow burner, but stick with it. Classic Who. Edit: Mind, I’m a sentimental fool ---
**Author:** ![Galwegian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galwegian/32/3426_2.png) [@Galwegian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galwegian)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/198 "2011-09-10T19:20:47Z")
Loved this ep. Not sure when its airing in the US, so I’ll use a spoiler box for initial comments. [spoiler] Poor, poor Amy: she didn’t deserve that ending. I think this is the first time I’ve seen Amy as a strong sympathetic character in her own right: telling Rory to keep the door closed was definitely her own crowning moment. Yet another instance of waiting for each other: first, Rory guarding the Pandoricum for two thousand years, then Rory’s waiting for Amy in the Tardis while the House creature messed up time, driving him mad. And now this. Did the Doctor even understand what he was doing to Rory? He just said, “She never existed” as though that was the end of it. I can see why The Silence are waging war against him, and I’m quite sure that is how Moffat has planned for us to see it! After tonight, and all the guilt he showed in the Tardis in\* Let’s Kill Hitler\*, I wonder if this season is all building up to the Doctor’s “death” in Utah as allowing him a fresh start with a clean slate.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Saitou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Saitou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saitou)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/199 "2011-09-10T20:44:09Z")
Liked the concept, classic SciFi hook, great last act, but I just couldn’t stop thinking during the episode that Karen Gillan isn’t a strong enough actress to convey the emotional complexities of both parts. I loved that the Doctor forced Rory to make a choice, enough with the back-seat driving ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860/200 "2011-09-10T21:05:05Z")
Terrific episode. 9 out of 10 for me. I’m deducting one mark, for Rory not telling old Amy to shut up and stop whining because 36 years is nothing compared to _2000!_ 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-series-six-part-ii/593860.md?page=11)