# Doctor Who - spoilers for next season **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 16, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406 "2011-12-16T13:13:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/1 "2011-12-16T13:13:07Z")
[Some time next season.](http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/dec/15/doctor-who-amy-leaves) I will miss Rory ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/2 "2011-12-16T13:16:00Z")
I’ve just realised how spoilerific the thread title is and that not everyone will want to know. Can someone please report this and ask a mod to change the title? Apologies all! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/3 "2011-12-16T13:27:38Z")
I reported the OP, but you should know that you can report your own posts. ---
**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/4 "2011-12-16T13:33:08Z")
Can I? I did look, must have missed it. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/5 "2011-12-16T13:42:02Z")
I’ve edited the thread title from “The Ponds are Leaving the Doctor” to whatever it now says. ---
**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/6 "2011-12-16T13:44:05Z")
Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/7 "2011-12-16T13:56:10Z")
> [@Jennyrosity](#): > > Can I? I did look, must have missed it. See the little triangle in the upper right corner of the post, next to the post number? That’s the report post button. Formerly it wasn’t possible to report your own posts, but it has been possible for at least a couple of years. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/8 "2011-12-16T14:49:52Z")
The article mentions two “lost” episodes that were aired “earlier this week.” Anybody know what ep.s they were? I went back & forth on Amy - I liked Karen Gillian, but the part as written could be very grating sometimes. And the whole River Song backstory became increasingly tiresome towards the end of last season. The show could use a change in direction. Rory was a great innovation. While Amy was just one in a line of spunky, fiesty young female companions, Rory was the first male companion in the new series, and not an irritating “boy genius” like Adric or Turlough. He was a thoughtful, introspective character who wasn’t afraid to tell the Doctor he was full of shit (which, let’s face it, he sometimes is.) That was a great new dynamic to the show. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/9 "2011-12-16T15:04:10Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > The article mentions two “lost” episodes that were aired “earlier this week.” Anybody know what ep.s they were? [Here](http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/12/showbiz/uk-dr-who/?hpt=hp_c2). Part 3 of the 1st Doctor (William Hartnell) serial “Galaxy 4” and part 2 of the 3rd Doctor (Patrick Troughton) serial “The Underwater Menace”. ---
**Author:** ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/10 "2011-12-16T15:16:22Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > Rory was a great innovation. While Amy was just one in a line of spunky, fiesty young female companions, Rory was the first male companion in the new series, and not an irritating “boy genius” like Adric or Turlough. He was a thoughtful, introspective character who wasn’t afraid to tell the Doctor he was full of shit (which, let’s face it, he sometimes is.) That was a great new dynamic to the show. Do you want him to repeat the question… ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/11 "2011-12-16T17:44:46Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > The article mentions two “lost” episodes that were aired “earlier this week.” Anybody know what ep.s they were? [Thread here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=634667) > [@](#): > > Rory was a great innovation. While Amy was just one in a line of spunky, fiesty young female companions, Rory was the first male companion in the new series … Mickey, Adam and Captain Jack might debate that statement. Even Jackson Lake arguably has grounds to disagree. > [@](#): > > … and not an irritating “boy genius” like Adric or Turlough. Turlough was a genius? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/12 "2011-12-16T17:59:25Z")
> [@Jennyrosity](#): > > I’ve just realised how spoilerific the thread title is and that not everyone will want to know. > > Can someone please report this and ask a mod to change the title? > > Apologies all! I don’t think its really a spoiler. Companions generally have a shelf life of about 2-3 years. It’s predictable that they would be leaving soon. In fact, most people thought they had already left. Telling us HOW they would leave would be a spoiler. But the article only gives the vaguest hints of that. ---
**Author:** ![Lips\_Obsession](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@Lips\_Obsession](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lips_Obsession)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/13 "2011-12-16T18:51:37Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > [Here](http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/12/showbiz/uk-dr-who/?hpt=hp_c2). > > Part 3 of the 1st Doctor (William Hartnell) serial “Galaxy 4” and part 2 of the 3rd Doctor (Patrick Troughton) serial “The Underwater Menace”. Patrick Troughton was the 2nd Doctor. The 3rd Doctor was Jon Pertwee. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/14 "2011-12-16T19:09:47Z")
> [@Lips\_Obsession](#): > > Patrick Troughton was the 2nd Doctor. > > The 3rd Doctor was Jon Pertwee. :smack: I think I keep mixing up those two because Pertwee looks a lot more like Hartnell than he does Troughton, so I kind of merge 1 and 3 and move 2 back a slot. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Doctor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/15 "2011-12-16T19:41:13Z")
Rory was definitely an interesting character who was allowed to grow and change and be his own man despite the fact that his competition is the Doctor. He is never overawed by the Doctor and does not automatically agree with what the Doctor is doing or saying. He was a great addition to the TARDIS team. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/16 "2011-12-16T20:22:10Z")
I won’t be watching next season. I’m fed up with Moffat’s obsession with constant heartbreak. These season long arcs of doom are just too frustrating for me. Why can’t the companion just leave like they have for almost forty years? Why does there have to be some gut wrenching tragedy? I have no problem with cast changes. But Amy has faced nothing but constant tragedy. Rory has been killed what four or five times? Rose got left in a parallel world. Martha left to pursue medicine. Donna had her memory wiped. Donna’s leaving was sad but nothing horrible like Moffat is hinting at. > [@](#): > > “But the final days of the Ponds are coming – and during the next series. I’m not telling you when and certainly not telling you how. But that story is going to come to a heartbreaking end.” ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/17 "2011-12-17T23:29:00Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I have no problem with cast changes. But Amy has faced nothing but constant tragedy. Rory has been killed what four or five times? Rory is to Doctor Who as Kenny is to South Park ---
**Author:** ![LaurenIpsum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@LaurenIpsum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LaurenIpsum)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctor-who-spoilers-for-next-season/606406/18 "2011-12-20T14:43:32Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I won’t be watching next season. I’m fed up with Moffat’s obsession with constant heartbreak. These season long arcs of doom are just too frustrating for me. > > Why can’t the companion just leave like they have for almost forty years? Why does there have to be some gut wrenching tragedy? I agree. I was so upset at the way Donna left, especially since they seemed to go to great pains to establish how much of a better person she was after traveling with the Doctor - now that was all gone. Since we knew from Donna’s first appearance that she really really wanted to be married, I had thought of a perfect exit for her - have her meet some cute guy on another planet, and have her willingly decide to stay there and settle down with him. There, no heartbreak, no depressing endings, just someone getting what they want for once. I was really expecting they’d do something like this, until they started making hints, like River’s reaction to meeting Donna in the library.