# Doctors on the Warpath - Rand Paul Gets a Ribbing **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 6, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913 "2017-11-06T20:48:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/61 "2017-11-10T00:50:01Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Just hard to imagine that anyone would think that assaulting a sitting US Senator was likely to achieve ANY desirable result! Nah. Too easy. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/62 "2017-11-10T01:27:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And he “appears to cast doubt” on the landscaping skirmish theory with a couple of [passive-aggressive retweets](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/09/rand-paul-neighbor-feud-motive-244734) of Breitbart and Washington Examiner articles, neither of which I shall link to directly nor read. Okay, I just read the Washington Examiner article and skimmed the Breitbart article so you don’t have to. Nothing salacious in either of them. They cite interviews with numerous (seven?) neighbors, including some HOA board members, who all agree that Paul has been an excellent neighbor. The articles cite the story in USA Today where developer Skaggs said it was about lawn clippings are that Paul was a libertarian asshole and nothing but trouble for the HOA. All the neighbors disagree with that. One of them expressed amazement that Paul mows his own lawn. Not much said about what kind of neighbor Boucher was, that I noticed, other than being outspokenly and vehemently anti-Trump (and maybe anti-GOP). He posted one tweet about Trump, saying “May Mueller fry his gonads”. Apparently he never did anything that would have led anyone to expect something like this. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/63 "2017-11-10T01:32:43Z")
As for the speculation that a hard-core libertarian would never fit in at a HOA neighborhood: That’s probably baloney. Getting together with neighbors to form a neighborhood association is exactly the way libertarian neighbors think things _ought_ be done, as opposed to having some Big Brother Central Gummint making laws and telling you what to do. For example, a popular libertarian talking point has to do with building roads, and the funding thereof: They oppose taxation by a government to do it, but instead prefer that people who want a road should get together, form a local assessment district, and pay for and get the road themselves — which they can then operate as a toll road for all outsiders, if they want. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/64 "2017-11-10T03:23:48Z")
> [@](#): > > “Anesthesiologist leaves practice, citing injury, then turns extremely violent” screams “drug problem” to me. Or a bad medication effect, or a brain tumor. Depends what his behavior was like before this. If this is new behavior, seek physiological causes first. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/65 "2017-11-10T04:23:07Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > As for the speculation that a hard-core libertarian would never fit in at a HOA neighborhood: That’s probably baloney. [Dave the Libertarian](https://davethelibertarian.wordpress.com/tag/hoa/) disagrees with you. _“People who willingly give up their property rights are far worse than those who are forced into giving up their rights. One is a traitor to liberty, and the other a victim of tyranny. When a HOA comes down on someone who willingly signed their rights away, I have no pity for them because they are getting what they deserve.”_ I see that some others who profess libertarian views think HOAs voluntarily entered into are permissible. Maybe it depends on one’s definition of “hard-core”. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/66 "2017-11-10T12:33:15Z")
I always thought libertarians were fine with voluntary agreements and contracts and whatnot. Is there really a branch that advocates “sign on the line, then do whatever the hell you want”? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/67 "2017-11-10T14:55:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I always thought libertarians were fine with voluntary agreements and contracts and whatnot. Is there really a branch that advocates “sign on the line, then do whatever the hell you want”? Yeah, pretty much (to the first part). That guy is expressing a personal opinion, and not advocating that HOAs be made illegal. So, in that sense there’s probably room for him under the tent. If he were to advocate making them illegal, that would be different. Still, I can see many rugged individualist types who want their little homestead in the wilderness saying: I’m not signing no goddam HOA and giving up my freedom!! ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/68 "2017-11-10T16:14:21Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > No not really. Teach it to me, please! > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Thank you, I thought it was all me, jeez!! OK, but only because you asked. You had two chances to review and alter your post before it became unchangeable by you. (Mods can still change/delete posts at anytime.) Your first option was to use the \ button located at the bottom of the _Reply to Thread_ page. The second option would be to take advantage of the few minuts of edit time available after clicking the \ button. The \ button would then be displayed near the bottom right of your post. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/69 "2017-11-16T00:20:05Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > According to the Votemaster, the neighbor was incensed because Paul was violating an antinoise ordinance by mowing his lawn at 7AM on a Sunday. > [@running\_coach](#): > > From the OP’s link: > The Bowling Green Daily News reported that an arrest warrant said Paul told police his neighbor came onto his property and tackled him from behind. . . Boucher: Hey Rand? Hey Rand! HEY RAND! Paul: Eh? Boucher: IT’S SEVEN IN THE MORNING. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING? Paul: EH?! Boucher: WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?! Paul: Clipping the lawn. Boucher: WHAT?! Paul: CLIPPING! Boucher tackles the senator from behind: Y’Mean like that? Paul: ARrrr…no…that’s a _Block in the Back_… Boucher: Yeah, well. There ain’t no refs here – hell, we ain’t even playin’ football! ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913/70 "2018-06-15T20:50:12Z")
Updating this thread: > [@](#): > > U.S. Sen. Rand Paul’s neighbor was sentenced Friday to 30 days on a federal charge of assaulting a member of Congress. > > Rene Boucher, 58, is also facing one year of supervised release and 100 hours of community service, according to Tim Horty of the U.S. District Attorney’s Office in Indianapolis. Boucher has been ordered not to make contact with Paul or his family and he must pay a $10,000 fine. > **[Rand Paul's neighbor sentenced to 30 days for assaulting the senator](https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2018/06/15/rand-paul-kentucky-neighbor-sentenced-attacking-senator/705590002/)** > > Sen. Rand Paul's neighbor was sentenced Friday to 30 days for tackling the Kentucky senator while he was mowing his lawn [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-on-the-warpath-rand-paul-gets-a-ribbing/800913.md?page=3)