# Does All of Michigan Suck Now? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 20, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786 "2010-04-20T20:08:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/61 "2010-04-26T13:33:59Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Oh, and let me point out that US News has rated my beloved Michigan State as the Number One university in the nation in nuclear physics, displacing MIT. If you have a linky for this, I would appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/62 "2010-04-26T14:14:21Z")
[Here’s one.](http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-physics-schools/nuclear-science) and [here’s another.](http://www.freep.com/article/20100416/NEWS06/100416012/MSU-tops-MIT-as-best-nuclear-physics-grad-school) ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/63 "2010-04-27T04:25:05Z")
Okay, **olives** , I’m with you on the Middle Eastern food, but Mexican food? Mexican food in Michigan suuuuuucks. I’m actually not even sure what you’re talking about. Where can I find some good Mexican food in Ann Arbor? Seriously, tell me. I would kill for some good Mexican food. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/64 "2010-04-27T05:48:08Z")
Growing up, I ate at [Matador](http://matadorrestaurant.net/) in Taylor, about a 30 minute drive from Ann Arbor. > [@](#): > > In the early 1950s, Ramond Tejada, Sr. and his father, Alfred opened a small diner on Van Born Road in Taylor, MI and called it the Matador Drive-In. Mexican food wasn’t popular at th etime, but the Tejada’s started teh Matador Drive-In with their own family recipes for tamales, enchiladas, tacos and tostadas. The rest of their fare was American. It’s greasy, but it is definitely tastes more authentic (read: not cookie-cutter Tex-Mex). I don’t know if you would find it “good,” but I always enjoy it. Their tacos are deep fried and wonderful. Mexicantown in Detroit has a large Hispanic community and several popular restaurants such as [Xochimilco](http://xochimilco-restaurant.com/) or [Mexican Village](http://www.mexicanvillagefood.com/). I haven’t been there that much, but what I remember was good. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/65 "2010-04-27T06:56:21Z")
I still remember visiting Detroit in the early 80’s. Went to the Renaissance Center which I guess was suppose to be a symbol of GM. Drove around looking at architecture and somehow managed to end up around Tiger Stadium. At that point red lights meant nothing to me. Can’t imagine what it’s like with the collapse of General Motors. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/66 "2010-04-27T12:50:22Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Okay, **olives** , I’m with you on the Middle Eastern food, but Mexican food? Mexican food in Michigan suuuuuucks. I’m actually not even sure what you’re talking about. Where can I find some good Mexican food in Ann Arbor? > > Seriously, tell me. I would kill for some good Mexican food. Not Ann Arbor, Ypsi. Or barring that, Southwest Detroit. You have to go where the immigrants are! (One I remember is _Taquería la loma_ in Ypsilanti.) ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/67 "2010-04-27T13:13:35Z")
When I think of states, there are some that I would NEVER want to visit, much less live in (Texas, North Dakota, Delaware, Missouri) - for various reasons, like bad weather, heat, or desolate wastelands. There are other states I would very much like to visit (Massachusetts for Cape Cod, California, the Carolinas) and Michigan has always sounded like a beautiful place to me. I live not far from Lake Ontario, and it is awesome - so there’s the Great Lakes. It just has a nice association in my own mind. That’s why I like my OPI nail polish, “Skinny Dippin’ in Lake Michigan” - I’d like to do that! ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/68 "2010-04-27T13:26:43Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > [Here’s one.](http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-physics-schools/nuclear-science) and [here’s another.](http://www.freep.com/article/20100416/NEWS06/100416012/MSU-tops-MIT-as-best-nuclear-physics-grad-school) Thank you very, very much! ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/69 "2010-04-27T13:29:14Z")
You guyssssss, I don’t have a car! I’m an impoverished grad student! If I have to actually drive to get there, it doesn’t count. I will look up Taqueria la Loma, though. In theory, I should be able to get around Ypsi on AATA, although I never actually do it. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/70 "2010-04-27T13:30:37Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Not Ann Arbor, Ypsi. Or barring that, Southwest Detroit. You have to go where the immigrants are! > > (One I remember is _Taquería la loma_ in Ypsilanti.) There is a Mexican place near cork town that starts with an X and sounds like Sasymoto, that is AWESOME. It is always packed. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/71 "2010-04-27T13:31:37Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > I’m an impoverished grad student! . The Redundancy Department of Redundancies would like to have a word with you. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/72 "2010-04-27T14:07:16Z")
Out near the end of the Keweenaw is [Mt. Bohemia](http://www.mtbohemia.com/), the best powder tree skiing between the east and the west. To the northwest is the lovely wilderness of [Isle Royale](http://www.terragalleria.com/parks/np.isle-royale.html)that I can see from here in Thunder Bay, ON. Aside from the very scenic Superior shores of da UP, the less said about Michigan, the better. When I worked on a great lakes freighter, Detroit was the only port where we were not permitted off the boat. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/73 "2010-04-27T14:09:38Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Hey, I lived in Ypsi for two years. Every time I see that [massive penis](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/YpsilantiWaterTower.jpg) it warms my heart. I always wondered what a Ypsilanti was. Now I know. ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/74 "2010-04-27T14:58:27Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > You guyssssss, I don’t have a car! I’m an impoverished grad student! If I have to actually drive to get there, it doesn’t count. > > I will look up Taqueria la Loma, though. In theory, I should be able to get around Ypsi on AATA, although I never actually do it. When I was an impoverished grad student 12-15 years ago, I lived in Ypsilanti and commuted to Ann Arbor. (And yes, AATA has three routes that go from the main AA station to downtown Ypsi) We ate all the time at [La Fiesta Mexicana](http://www.yelp.com/biz/la-fiesta-mexicana-ypsilanti). Food was good, service was up-and-down, and it was BYOB (but located next door to a liquor store, so you can pop next door for a six). I haven’t eaten there in years, because I’m much closer to the restaurants in SW Detroit, but the place is certainly worth a try. Their tamales are recommended. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/75 "2010-04-27T16:37:28Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > You guyssssss, I don’t have a car! I’m an impoverished grad student! If I have to actually drive to get there, it doesn’t count. Then ya can’t say that Mexican food in all of Michigan sucks if you’re talking about walking distance! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/76 "2010-04-27T16:47:24Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I still remember visiting Detroit in the early 80’s. Went to the Renaissance Center which I guess was suppose to be a symbol of GM. Drove around looking at architecture and somehow managed to end up around Tiger Stadium. At that point red lights meant nothing to me. > > Can’t imagine what it’s like with the collapse of General Motors. I also remember visiting Detroit in the early '80s with my school’s business office education club (boec). I distinctly remember standing in front of a huge window at the Ren Center Hotel, looking out onto the city at night, and our teacher/chaparone warning us that “six people down there will die tonight, don’t let it be you!” Kind of scary at 14. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/77 "2010-04-27T16:50:12Z")
> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#): > > There is a Mexican place near cork town that starts with an X and sounds like Sasymoto, that is AWESOME. It is always packed. That’s most likely the previously mentioned **Xochimilco**. My preference has always been across the street at **El Zocalo**. They had this flaming cheese appetizer that was artery clogging heaven. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/78 "2010-04-27T17:55:43Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Not Ann Arbor, Ypsi. Or barring that, Southwest Detroit. You have to go where the immigrants are! > > (One I remember is _Taquería la loma_ in Ypsilanti.) Sabor Latino is awesome. It’s on Main St. Especially since they expanded and added a little more latino to their sabor. Mmmm, columbian emapanadas… ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/79 "2010-04-27T18:04:50Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > Sabor Latino is awesome. It’s on Main St. > > Especially since they expanded and added a little more latino to their sabor. > > Mmmm, columbian emapanadas… Oh man, how could I forget about that place. It is awesome. Plus you can grab some good German beer next door at The Heidleberg! ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/80 "2010-04-27T18:17:23Z")
> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#): > > Well, we have the largest Middle Eastern and Polish population outside of those respective areas, though, Polish cusine is no where to be had AFAICT. We also have a large concentration of Finns in da UP and Germans because of Daimler and other automotive stuff. > **[Entertainment - Chicago Tribune](http://detroit.metromix.com/browse/restaurants/topic.restaurants.cuisine.european.polish?keywords=&override_for_ads=true&page=1)** > > Coverage of Chicago theater, concerts, museums and movies. Including arts and entertainment news and reviews by our critics. Polish restaurants around Detroit. Try "Under the Eagle’ It is pretty expensive for Polish food but very good. My wife likes the Ducks blood soup at “Three Brothers”. Then we have Paczkis. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786.md?page=5)