# Does All of Michigan Suck Now?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 20, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786 "2010-04-20T20:08:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/81 "2010-04-27T18:59:20Z")

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You don’t realize how good Michigan’s Mexican food is until you have to live a year in someplace like the greater Toronto area. My (Mexican) wife and I were lucky enough to live just down the road from a famed Mexican restaurant in Streetsville. Absolute crap, and expensive to boot. We were actually _relieved_ when a common chain (Rosies or something like that) opened near us. Not great, but _peor es nada_.

Ironically, in my current neighborhood of Mexico City I can’t find any good Mexican food. Have to travel for it, and lower-middle class, the better (not a good idea to go into poor areas).

As for Mexican Town, head a little further down West Vernor until you get to Mi Pueblo. Not as “fancy” as Los Galanes, but much, much more authentic, and fantastic to boot!

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/82 "2010-04-27T19:18:30Z")

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> [@Balthisar](#):
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> As for Mexican Town, head a little further down West Vernor until you get to Mi Pueblo. Not as “fancy” as Los Galanes, but much, much more authentic, and fantastic to boot!

'Eyyyyy, that’s the place that my department went to lunch at a few weeks ago; I was gonna bring them up here!

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**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/83 "2010-04-28T20:43:42Z")

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I live in Grand Rapids and really like it here. Close to great beaches, parks, low cost of living, farmers’ markets, lots of schools to choose from, and more and more to do downtown. Lakes big and small everywhere. There are most of the great things about bigger cities without the high cost. (I mean, you can usually park for free!) There is more and more talk about expanding / bringing great attractions to the city. ArtPrize began last year and there is a lot of buzz about what it will do for the city.

Michigan has some of the best Universities in the country and I think that helps a lot.

Lots of nice vacation spots, I have visited other state parks by the other Great Lakes and have always been disappointed compared to ours. Grand Haven, Holland, Muskegon, Traverse City, and Mackinaw Island.

There are signs of recovery - I can’t speak specifically for Detroit, but my husband works in Tool and Die, which was hit hard by the fall of the auto industry, and he is seeing the early signs of life in that industry again. Hopefully in the long run we will diversify and it will end up making us stronger as a state. There is a lot of growth in medical fields/hospitals/research in Grand Rapids.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/84 "2010-04-28T22:49:10Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> Hey, I lived in Ypsi for two years. Every time I see that [massive penis](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/YpsilantiWaterTower.jpg) it warms my heart. Anyway, where do you think all that authentic Mexican food comes from? 😛

[Here](http://maps.google.com/maps/place?um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=mexicantown&fb=1&gl=us&ftid=0x883b329306e50d29:0x84606381cf622b46&ei=TLvYS-_9LYH58AbLoLSBBg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ8gEwAA)?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/85 "2010-04-28T22:53:02Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> Okay, **olives** , I’m with you on the Middle Eastern food, but Mexican food? Mexican food in Michigan suuuuuucks. I’m actually not even sure what you’re talking about. Where can I find some good Mexican food in Ann Arbor?
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> Seriously, tell me. I would kill for some good Mexican food.

There’s a place in Canton, right by my house. Just opened up. I’d say it’s almost halfway between Ann Arbor and \*\*Queen Tonya’\*\*s house…

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/86 "2010-04-28T23:03:05Z")

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Another Michigan native checking in - I always like to tell people I graduated from Ypsi State.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/87 "2010-04-28T23:26:45Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> There’s a place in Canton, right by my house. Just opened up. I’d say it’s almost halfway between Ann Arbor and \*\*Queen Tonya’\*\*s house…

Are you going to come to my house and drive me there?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/88 "2010-04-28T23:44:40Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> Are you going to come to my house and drive me there?

Sure.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/89 "2010-04-29T00:13:08Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> Are you going to come to my house and drive me there?

You have not adequately explained why you have never been to Sabor Latino, though. I feel like I don’t even know you!

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/90 "2010-04-29T14:44:52Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Another Michigan native checking in - I always like to tell people I graduated from Ypsi State.

My favorite thing about living in Ypsilanti was confusing people in call centers when they asked my address.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/91 "2010-04-29T16:03:18Z")

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> [@Hello\_Again](#):
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> You have not adequately explained why you have never been to Sabor Latino, though. I feel like I don’t even know you!

It’s on Main Street. That’s like, ten blocks from the policy school. Too far.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/92 "2010-04-29T16:18:22Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> It’s on Main Street. That’s like, ten blocks from the policy school. Too far.

Oh, my dear, you need to learn to use the campus bus. Main Street is full of wonderful places to eat and fun things to do. It’s the center of Ann Arbor life. Go forth and explore your world!

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/93 "2010-04-29T16:55:23Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> Oh, my dear, you need to learn to use the campus bus. Main Street is full of wonderful places to eat and fun things to do. It’s the center of Ann Arbor life. Go forth and explore your world!

I don’t have time. Haven’t you yet realized that grad students don’t get to have fun?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/94 "2010-04-29T17:46:08Z")

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[CBC:](http://www.cbc.ca/canada/windsor/story/2010/04/29/wdr-bridge-canada-border-money-100429.html)

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> Canada has offered to give Michigan up to $550 million US to help the cash-strapped state pay for a new bridge crossing the Detroit River.
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> Read more: [http://www.cbc.ca/canada/windsor/story/2010/04/29/wdr-bridge-canada-border-money-100429.html#ixzz0mVpGiOfO](http://www.cbc.ca/canada/windsor/story/2010/04/29/wdr-bridge-canada-border-money-100429.html#ixzz0mVpGiOfO)

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/95 "2010-04-29T17:52:42Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> I don’t have time. Haven’t you yet realized that grad students don’t get to have fun?

So… “Michigan has no good Mexican food” means… “there is no good Mexican food within a one block radius of me.” 10 blocks is like a 10 minute walk. Live a little. Or just enjoy the delightful Korean stylings of “Coffee Break” and shut up about it. 😃 I miss their BiBimBop.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/96 "2010-04-29T20:55:50Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> There’s a place in Canton, right by my house. Just opened up. I’d say it’s almost halfway between Ann Arbor and \*\*Queen Tonya’\*\*s house…

Hmm, tell me more?

We like Matador a lot, and while it’s the furthest thing from authentic possible, I really miss Don Pablos for their chili mashed potatoes.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/97 "2010-04-29T23:15:15Z")

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[http://local.yahoo.com/results;\_ylt=AkpBl3wKKs25Rh1KdUn2kGmHNcIF;\_ylv=3?p=Mexican+Restaurants&ycatfilt=96929155&csz=Detroit%2C+MI&ppg\_nm=3&pg\_nm=1&xargs=&start=28](http://local.yahoo.com/results;_ylt=AkpBl3wKKs25Rh1KdUn2kGmHNcIF;_ylv=3?p=Mexican+Restaurants&ycatfilt=96929155&csz=Detroit%2C+MI&ppg_nm=3&pg_nm=1&xargs=&start=28)  
People who say Detroit has no good Mexican restaurants are housebound. There are lots of them . Some are very good. Some little ones can become your personal favorites.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/98 "2010-04-29T23:18:34Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> [http://local.yahoo.com/results;\_ylt=AkpBl3wKKs25Rh1KdUn2kGmHNcIF;\_ylv=3?p=Mexican+Restaurants&ycatfilt=96929155&csz=Detroit%2C+MI&ppg\_nm=3&pg\_nm=1&xargs=&start=28](http://local.yahoo.com/results;_ylt=AkpBl3wKKs25Rh1KdUn2kGmHNcIF;_ylv=3?p=Mexican+Restaurants&ycatfilt=96929155&csz=Detroit%2C+MI&ppg_nm=3&pg_nm=1&xargs=&start=28)  
> People who say Detroit has no good Mexican restaurants are housebound. There are lots of them . Some are very good. Some little ones can become your personal favorites.

Fortunately, no one said that.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/99 "2010-04-29T23:40:37Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> [CBC:](http://www.cbc.ca/canada/windsor/story/2010/04/29/wdr-bridge-canada-border-money-100429.html)

That’s the good thing about building roads and bridges in Michigan these days, it only costs half as much because you only have to build the lanes heading out of the state.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-all-of-michigan-suck-now/536786/100 "2010-04-30T01:55:18Z")

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> [@Queen\_Tonya](#):
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> Hmm, tell me more?
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> We like Matador a lot, and while it’s the furthest thing from authentic possible, I really miss Don Pablos for their chili mashed potatoes.

Zorro’s. It’s on Michigan Avenue, right around Hannan.

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