Well, SMINTAIR had planned to allow it (if not actaully encourage smoking). Alas, it never got off the ground.
Electric cigarettes don’t combust. They’re vaporizers. There is no smoke. There is no tar. No CO or Arsenic or malodorous… odors. No puppy murdering. Just vapor. I’ve been smoking my ecig at work the past few days and it smells vaguely like berries for a couple seconds, then it dissapates and smells like nothing. I’ve smoked it in my room for hours the past 2 days and there is no odor. Even when I leave and come back. And despite being a now-former cig smoker, my sense of smell is finely-tuned.
It’s like sex, only I’m having it.
Although it was non-binding, ICAO passed a resolution back in 1992 (IIRC) urging Contracting States to ban smoking on all international flights by the end of 1996.
Many States had already begun the process of banning smoking on domestic flights - the USA ban came into effect on shot haul flights in 1988 and was extended to longer flights later on, with a complete smoking ban on international flights to and from the USA in 2000. Canada, Australia and most of Western Europe passed laws around the same timeline, and signed bilateral agreements with each other agreeing to enforcing the bans.
I suspect that most of the Contracting States (and I know there were 190 of them as of August 2010) have agreements with one or more countries that ban smoking on international flights, thereby effectively banning them in those countries even if there is no law stating so. I don’t know about domestic flights in all countries, though.
If you sit out on the wing, they will let you smoke.
Okay, my post was a bit mealy mouthed in response in a GD thread. But I still wonder, why can’t smokers abstain for the duration of the flight? When I was a smoker, I did some 10-11 hour flights, which with the departure and arrival processing would turn into 12 hours or more. No smoking on the flights and for some time on arrival but only having normal cravings immediately before being able to satisfy them.
This is mostly rhetorical, so don’t worry about having to respond.
Cheers.
Why do people need caffeine first thing in the morning? I’m a coffee drinker, but I can wait until well after noon for a cup.
I find it hard to believe you much more than a social smoker if you are going 12+ hours with little more than “normal cravings”.
Back OT, I recall Air New Zealand used to allow smoking on flights on the Japan/NZ route until comparatively recently- 2001 or thereabouts, I think.
Spanish airlines can not allow smoking, by law. This isn’t from the one enacted last January 1st, it has been in place for a while.
And in theory that was in restricted areas, but those are just marked by huge posters - no “fishbowl”.
I’m not sure how the new anti-tobacco regulations affect airports but IIUC it’s now forbidden to smoke anywhere that’s a workplace. I know there are problems with their implementation because they’re sloppy as all get-go (they don’t define what constitutes an “enclosed space”, don’t assign specific penalties, don’t state which police forces/government levels are responsible for enforcing them; there’s a request to clarify whether a private home will be counted as “a workplace” when there are people working there such as cleaning staff or plumbers), so there are a lot of things which will need a second part to this law in order to make it valid and enforceable.
I took advantage of the no smoking policy on a long haul flight from Australia to Europe and gave up smoking. Mind you, I had syked myself up for it though months before, but it worked (Y)
welcome…csb!
Huh? Precisely, e-cigs might contain nicotine but don’t produce tar, carbon monoxide, etc…
I know this is an old post but you totally misunderstood the anouncement. They never said that.
Madrid-Barajas airport has prohibited smoking (except in designated areas) for many many years now. Many. It was not seriously enforced until January 2006 when the new anti-tobacco law came into effect and since then it has been enforced.
Before that, whenever I went to wait for someone at the airport I was in the habit of filing a complaint with the airport authorities that the ban was not being enforced. I have filed many such complaints and the replies are a joke. it is not our responsibility, it is the police. it is not the police but the airport. It is not us it is the Department of Health… In the meanwhile everybody smoked.
About 2003 there was a cop (Guardia Civil) smoking right under the sign that said “smoking prohibited” and it just made for the perfect photo which would capture the essence and soul of Spain. I pulled out my camera ready to take the photo but he saw me and told me “no photos allowed”. Thus a great photo opportunity was missed. I should have been more discrete.
At any rate, the law of 2006 changed attitudes and enforcement in Spain. I guarantee the airport in Madrid, like all other public buildings, prohibits smoking and will enforce it.
Well, that’s a welcome change from the bad old days of the USSR. I had the embassy book me into non-smoking on one flight, and as soon as the plane took off the Russian next to me lit up one of those really nasty Russian cigarettes that was mostly cabbage. I finally flagged down the “attendant”, who grudgingly dragged herself over and stood glaring at me. I pointed to my ticket and to the guy next to me smoking and said “No smoking!” while using hand gestures to help explain. She gave me a withering look, pointed to my seat and said “No smoke!”, then pointed to his seat and said “Smoke!” :smack:
And, ironically, since the ban, airlines don’t refresh the cabin air as much as they used to, rather they just recirculate it and only bring in fresh air when the internal quality drops too much.
(PDF) http://dl.tufts.edu/file_assets/tufts:UA084.2023216841
The first time I ever set foot in an aeroplane that didn’t have a little sign telling the passengers to put out their cigarettes was this summer on board a Boeing 787 Dreamliner,
But that does not have to do with the smoking ban per se, but rather with the later models of aircraft using more recirculation to save on fuel and systems. And the article is from 20 years ago, the trend is allegedly (slightly) reversed with the current generation.
Interesting because that makes the no smoking policy a fuel savings as well.
But the vapor released does contain particulate matter for which we do not know what the health effects are.
If a non-smoker is in a small space with a bunch of people smoking e-cigs - its still nasty. The vapor smells and clings to clothes. Not as bad as cigarettes - vast improvement over that. But it still isn’t pleasant.
Which reminds me, I need to pull my wool sweater out of the garage where its been airing for two weeks.
I’ll confirm a few years ago, flew Chinese airlines inside the country. One passenger had her 1 year old daughter sitting bottomless on her lap (where she managed to pee on the passenger beside her) but no smoking on any flights.
Similarly, on recent trips, Turkish Airlines, Pegasus, Royal Jordanian and Egyptair - no smoking happening on any of those flights. IIRC it was explicitly forbidden.
Not aware of any western airline that allows it.
IIUC the e-cigarette has a heating element in it to vaporize the liquid inside. What other electric/electronic atomizers are permitted aboard aircraft?