# Does anybody here think the Paris Hilton burger commercial is "soft core porn"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 25, 2005, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369 "2005-05-25T01:14:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/81 "2005-05-28T00:03:23Z")
I think you people are all whooshing me. We’re talking about the online commercial, right? ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/82 "2005-05-28T00:36:56Z")
> [@fessie](#): > > I think you people are all whooshing me. > > We’re talking about the online commercial, right? Well, someone who watches Sesame Street would probably think it was soft-core porn, I suppose, instead of just “racy.” Personally, I’d consider something like a late night Cinemax movie to be soft core porn - you know, naked rumpy-pumpy where you can see boobs and butts but no genitalia, complete with orgasmic noises. ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/83 "2005-05-28T01:49:52Z")
One night at the Life Drawing class my Mom & I were both taking, the model (a young woman with a really beautiful body, who’d been posing for our class off & on) decided to try draping some pieces of clothing, just for a change. And it was interesting - her partially clothed body made me more uncomfortable than any model ever had (except perhaps for the one who kept doing split leg poses in front of me). My Mom remarked upon it, too, that somehow she seemed “indecent”. I’ve been drawing nudes since I was in High School, so I just don’t equate nudity with pornographic. ---
**Author:** ![Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/84 "2005-05-28T01:54:48Z")
Don’t see anything wrong with what she did. She’s just trying to make a dollar. Wouldn’t mind having one of those burgers right now though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/85 "2005-05-28T02:01:35Z")
> [@fessie](#): > > I think you people are all whooshing me. > > We’re talking about the online commercial, right? Is there an online version of the commercial that’s different from the broadcast version? Seriously, I’m asking, so I can compare. Furthermore, and I’m not directing this specifically at you, **fessie** , I’ve about had it with people saying, “Well, in Europe, such-and-such wouldn’t raise an eyebrow.” The commerical is for an American company. It is being broadcast in America. It is to be judged by American standards. What is to be gained by changing our standards, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/86 "2005-05-28T02:06:23Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Is there an online version of the commercial that’s different from the broadcast version? Seriously, I’m asking, so I can compare. > > Furthermore, and I’m not directing this specifically at you, **fessie** , I’ve about had it with people saying, “Well, in Europe, such-and-such wouldn’t raise an eyebrow.” The commerical is for an American company. It is being broadcast in America. It is to be judged by American standards. What is to be gained by changing our standards, anyway? Try [spicyparis.com](http://spicyparis.com), as linked in the OP (or soon thereafter). I don’t think I said anything about Europe or standards one way or another 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/87 "2005-05-28T02:10:18Z")
I never said you did. But why did you say you thought you were being whooshed? ---
**Author:** ![Booker57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Booker57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Booker57)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/88 "2005-05-28T02:30:49Z")
I like her hair. The only parts of this commercial I have seen, have not looked pornographic to me. YMMV ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/89 "2005-05-28T02:38:22Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > What is to be gained by changing our standards, anyway? Everything? Haven’t people been complaining (more accurately, yelling at the top of their lungs) for decades about the set of American standards in which violence is positively approved of for everyone down to children but the slightest bit of sexiness is treated as mind-rotting perversion? Why is this commercial raising as much as an eyebrow in the first place? Isn’t the fact that it is sufficient in and of itself to say that our standards desperately need changing, and at once? Whether you agree with that or not, when you say “The commercial is for an American company. It is being broadcast in America. It is to be judged by American standards.” remember that not all Americans have the same standards and that many people - include the majority on this thread - are condemning the standards of those who are complaining. ---
**Author:** ![Dignan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@Dignan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dignan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/90 "2005-05-28T06:10:54Z")
Carl’s Jr. has got to be loving this. I would not be surprised if things have turned out better than Carl’s Jr. had hoped. If not for this thread, I never would have heard of it, or seen it. I watched the clip, big deal. Now all the complainers have turned it into “news” and getting it played several times a day. (I don’t imagine Carl’s Jr. is paying any advertising money when the commercial is being described as the cause for the downfall of civilization.) Any publicity really is good publicity. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/91 "2005-05-28T06:31:31Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > Carl’s Jr. (known as Hardee’s in the eastern half of the U.S.) used to be pretty well-known as a bottom-tier fast food chain. The ones we had in the South used to have decent burgers and breakfast sandwiches throughout the '80s, but then most of them closed and the few that remained had pretty sad menus consisting of uninspired burgers and fried chicken that managed to be greasy and dry all at the same time. > > Over the last two or three years, Hardee’s/Carl’s Jr. seems to be trying to reposition itself in the fast food market, and they ran a fascinating commercial where they pretty much acknowledged their food just wasn’t very good, but things were changing, and they were about to get a lot better. Since then I notice they came out with the “Six-Dollar Burger” (which was supposed to be on par with a big burger from a sports bar or Friday’s-type restaurant) and the huge Monster Thickburger, where the ads featured another skanky (and strangely attractive) woman who fit her entire fist into her mouth, no lie! It seems like a shift in management or corporate philosophy combined with a riskier new ad agency is helping the chain get back on its feet. I haven’t eaten at a Hardee’s in years, but I admit I would check one out if I had a convenient location, just on the strength of the “We used to suck but now we’re better” ads. I have eaten on Hardee’s Thickburgers in the last few years (not the Monster version). I must say that it is probably the best fast food burger out there. If there were any Hardee’s close by I’d eat there far more often. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/92 "2005-05-28T07:04:01Z")
> [@Exapno Mapcase](#): > > Why is this commercial raising as much as an eyebrow in the first place? Isn’t the fact that it is sufficient in and of itself to say that our standards desperately need changing, and at once? I still say the best way for Americans to get over the nation’s collective sexual hangup is to unleash the floodgates of pornography. Let everyone see whatever kink-ass weird stuff they can, no holds barred. Within a month, everyone will be so _utterly sick and tired_ of looking at porn, they’ll be deliberately searching for stuff with fully-clothed people just to get away from it. 😉 Further elaboration [here,](http://www.digiserve.com/eescape/ramblings/essays/More-Porn.html) for whoever cares to read it. ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/93 "2005-05-28T07:26:40Z")
If it weren’t Hilton in the commercial, the outrage would be essentially non-existant. It’s no more risque than anything I would see NFL/NBA cheerleaders doing. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369/94 "2005-05-28T07:48:45Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > Who masturbates to soft-core porn anyway? Fourteen year olds who can’t get access to anything harder than late night movies on Showtime. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anybody-here-think-the-paris-hilton-burger-commercial-is-soft-core-porn/305369.md?page=4)