# Does ANYONE at all in the SDMB listen to hip-hop?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 26, 2003, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562 "2003-06-26T17:34:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![nitroglycerine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@nitroglycerine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nitroglycerine)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/21 "2003-06-27T00:42:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hodge \*  
> \*\*I think you mispelled “1980’s hair-metal”. And, yes, Kurt Kobain did put an end to it.  
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Yeah, and replaced it with something just as bad, if not worse…watered down alt-rock for the masses.

Jon

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**Author:** ![Hodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Hodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodge)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/22 "2003-06-27T00:54:34Z")

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You might have a point. It’s a tough choice between self-indulgent whining and self-indulgent foppery.

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**Author:** ![nitroglycerine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@nitroglycerine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nitroglycerine)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/23 "2003-06-27T02:17:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hodge \*  
> \*\*You might have a point. It’s a tough choice between self-indulgent whining and self-indulgent foppery. \*\*

Ha…who needs to choose…with crap like Creed, and Incubus, you can have both! 🙂

Jon

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**Author:** ![Earl\_of\_the\_CC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Earl\_of\_the\_CC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_of_the_CC)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/24 "2003-06-27T04:49:04Z")

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Let me go ahead and get to the conclusion this thread is bound to reach eventually.

All contemporary music sucks horribly and without exception.😉

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**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/25 "2003-06-27T06:28:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Topaz \*  
> \*\*…And if so, (which I seriously doubt) who do you listen to? Anybody for 50 cent? Jay-Z? Anyone? \*\*

Why do you seriously doubt the anyone on the SMDB listens to one of the most popular forms of music around?

I listen to it; Dre, Enimem, Roots, Outkast, Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Snoop Dogg, Missy Elliot, NWA, Public Enemy amongst others.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/26 "2003-06-27T13:08:19Z")

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What is this “rap” you speak of, topaz? :rolleyes: No one here has ever heard of it. Can you explain?

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/27 "2003-06-27T13:10:39Z")

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Checking your profile, I see that I had purchased a lot of rap albums before you were even born. So easy on the assumptions.

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/28 "2003-06-27T14:57:41Z")

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Yup, loves me some hip-hop. At the moment I’m listening to Missy Elliot, KRS-One, The Roots, Talib Kweli, Blackalicious, Buck 65, but that’s just what’s on my current playlist.

I’m also listening to Eminem a lot because I’m working on a Eminem/Felix da Houscat bootleg.

As far as Snoop goes, he’s a guilty pleasure - that G Funk is too smooth.

I don’t mind 50 Cent, but I think he’s very overrated - nowhere near the talent he was hyped to be, and I think that Jay-Z sucks. The best I can say for him is that he can recognise a good hook - the Annie sample in Hard Knock Life (Ghetto Anthem) is pretty cool, as is Panjabi MC’s Mundian Te Bach Ke. But Jay-Z has no rapping ability whatsoever - terrible flow, boring subject matter.

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**Author:** ![godzillatemple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@godzillatemple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/godzillatemple)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/29 "2003-06-27T15:14:25Z")

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Hey – you don’t _have_ to be a high school drop-out with a serious drug habit to enjoy rap and hip-hop music…

…but it helps! 😃

Errr… just kidding, guys. No, really! **Hmmmm… wonder what the weather in The BBQ Pit is like today. Ouch! Put that pitchfork down…**

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/30 "2003-06-27T20:02:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by \*\*nitroglycerine \*\*\*  
> Yeah, and replaced it with something just as bad, if not worse…watered down alt-rock for the masses.

The mainstream inevitably waters down every musical movement or genre. Can’t blame Kurt for that. What kind of music _is_ good enough for you? I can give you many examples of that type of music that’s been watered down for the masses too.

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**Author:** ![StanDup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@StanDup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StanDup)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/31 "2003-06-27T20:10:29Z")

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> What is this “rap” you speak of, topaz? No one here has ever heard of it. Can you explain?

Well, from what I heard, rap is a type of music that got its start in Jamaica back in the 70’s, by a DJ Herc, who was one of the first to scratch records…

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-at-all-in-the-sdmb-listen-to-hip-hop/184562/32 "2003-06-27T20:28:26Z")

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Herc invented the technique of extending the break beat using two of the same records, Grand Master Theodoore invented the scratch. Turntableism has a rich history, but hip-hop must be said to be mainly born of inner-city Americans and the poverty and strife they had to deal with. While hip-hop started in the Bronx, it is now a global powerhouse. From the poorest neighborhoods came a multi-billion dollar industry. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

DaLovin’ Dj

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