# Does anyone believe Bush wont get re-elected? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 8, 2004, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867 "2004-08-08T06:50:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Got\_Taste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@Got\_Taste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Got_Taste)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/1 "2004-08-08T06:50:02Z")
Does anyone seriously believe this? With either Osama Bin Laden being found and/or another attack on the US leading up to the election, how can Bush lose? He cant. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/2 "2004-08-08T06:50:49Z")
Do you know something about Bin Laden that we don’t? ---
**Author:** ![Got\_Taste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@Got\_Taste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Got_Taste)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/3 "2004-08-08T06:52:17Z")
Oh yes very clever. I dont know anything about Bin Laden or Al`Queda. But i do know about George W Bush. [www.TheTruthSeeker.co.uk](http://www.TheTruthSeeker.co.uk) [www.JoeVialls.co.uk](http://www.JoeVialls.co.uk) Educate yourself ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/4 "2004-08-08T06:54:01Z")
Am I to assume that you made a guest account simply so you could whoosh us? Or are you just an idiot? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/5 "2004-08-08T06:56:31Z")
I’m plenty educated, thanks. And yes, I do think he won’t be re-elected. Even if I’m wrong, given the state of the country and national polls it’s ridiculous to present it the way you’re doing, as an obvious fact, that he will be. Given a quick look at the sites, **Soapbox** , I wouldn’t be surprised by either. ---
**Author:** ![Got\_Taste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@Got\_Taste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Got_Taste)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/6 "2004-08-08T06:56:43Z")
Care to let me email you once it all becomes a reality with a giant “I told you so”? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/7 "2004-08-08T07:02:26Z")
> [@Got Taste?](#): > > Care to let me email you once it all becomes a reality with a giant “I told you so”? This would fit perfectly if we had a Great Big Waste of Time Forum. Nobody’s said any of those things can’t happen. Maybe they will, who the fuck knows? It’s when you start claiming it’s all a plot that you have to, you know, _provide some damn evidence_. I’ve been listening to people pull this stuff for almost three years now and nobody has! Ever! Care to take a shot? ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/8 "2004-08-08T07:59:02Z")
Maybe the OP is simply admitting that the GOP have all their dirty tricks in place, and Bush will “win” even if 99% of the populace vote against him. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/9 "2004-08-08T08:29:10Z")
Well, shit. We all better hope Bush’ll win, 'cuz, y’know, Kerry’s just a lab rat trying to take over the world. Narf. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/10 "2004-08-08T11:48:34Z")
> [@Got Taste?](#): > > Care to let me email you once it all becomes a reality with a giant “I told you so”? I see you have conveniently hidden your own email address so that we cannot return the favor. Got Balls? ---
**Author:** ![AmericanMaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@AmericanMaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmericanMaid)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/11 "2004-08-08T13:21:19Z")
I frequent 3 message board (1 deals with pop culture, 1 deals with history/generations, and then there’s the SDMB). In the past month, there has been a huge increase of history board membership. Every single newbie spouts the GOP line. Since that happened over there, it can happen over here too. Interesting campaign strategy in the face of sinking polls, huh? ---
**Author:** ![laigle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@laigle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/laigle)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/12 "2004-08-08T14:07:22Z")
> [@AmericanMaid](#): > > I frequent 3 message board (1 deals with pop culture, 1 deals with history/generations, and then there’s the SDMB). In the past month, there has been a huge increase of history board membership. Every single newbie spouts the GOP line. Since that happened over there, it can happen over here too. > Interesting campaign strategy in the face of sinking polls, huh? Interesting, but nothing new. Software companies have been putting employees to work for years spamming their support boards with denials about every bug and security hole. The intellectual property industry took the cue and started trolling any boards where digital music/movies were discussed to try and spread the idea that you don’t have the right to listen to your CDs or watch your movies unless they decide you do. My dad is convinced he has to spend $50 on OEM proprietary fuses for his motorcycle because he heard it on the company forums (and random internet strangers would know better than his engineer son, of course). It’s a natural evolution that the political parties would get involved. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/13 "2004-08-08T14:14:28Z")
To specifically answer the OP, who is apparently just trying to stir the shit pot: Yes, according to the most recent poll results I saw, something like 52% of Americans seriously believe that Georgie boy is an incompetant asshole who can be defeated in '04. Sorry, no cite. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/14 "2004-08-08T14:24:57Z")
**GT:** \*[www.TheTruthSeeker.co.uk](http://www.TheTruthSeeker.co.uk) [www.JoeVialls.co.uk](http://www.JoeVialls.co.uk) Educate yourself\* Hmmmm. I went to the second of those sites and “educated” myself about the death of Princess Diana: > [@](#): > > Top secret “Less Than Lethal” weapons have been around for years, but few realize who they have actually been used on. […] Somehow the Zionist Lobby had to get rid of Dodi Al Fayed, and then once more arrogantly display its implicit “influence” over Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles. About the 9/11 attacks: > [@](#): > > Forget the media hype about “Arab Hijackers” because there were none on board the aircraft on 9/11. Outrageous? Not at all. The four aircraft used in the attacks were hijacked electronically from the ground About the invasion plans of “Yisraelim Zionist terrorists”: > [@](#): > > In essence, the entire American continent, from Inuvik in northern Canada to the southern tip of Tierra Del Fuego, is to be invaded and captured for Zionist use, with the cabal exercising central command and control from New York City, currently located in the much smaller United States of America. You are not lending your cause (whatever the hell it is) a whole lot of credibility with supporting references like these. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/15 "2004-08-08T14:41:18Z")
Hey, **Got Taste.** You know those people with Kerry/Edwards signs? The ones at rallies and speeches? More than likely all of them think, or atleast hope, Bush will lose. Also, I am not sure why I am taking such an illogical stance and applying logic to it, but wouldn’t that have BAD effects on the president? We are supposedly more safe since 9/11 and an attack on our soil would not be good I would imagine - for anyone. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/16 "2004-08-08T15:48:09Z")
DIdn’t look at the links, but to answer the OP: > [@GT](#): > > : Does anyone believe Bush wont get re-elected? I seriously don’t think Bush will get re-elected. At this point with the way things are I will be mildly surprised if he does. As to the rest of the folks in this thread…give it a rest. If you don’t like the OP simply don’t post. Why some of you feel the need to demean and degrade (without violating the letter of the GD rules of course) is beyond me. It was a simplisticly asked OP…so answer it and move on, or ignore it. I can’t believe the level of visciousness this forum is starting to get too. ☹ -XT ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/17 "2004-08-08T16:00:45Z")
**Soapbox Monkey** > [@](#): > > Or are you just an idiot? [Moderator Hat ON] Are you aware that you can’t call people an idiot in GD? That is quite enough. [Moderator Hat OFF] ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/18 "2004-08-08T16:05:01Z")
got…taste…is …right…will…vote…for…bush… have…not…been…hypnotized Kerry…supporters…give…up…and…prepare…for…re-neducation Well, I won’t say that it is impossible for Bush to get re-elected, but I sure _hope_ not. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/19 "2004-08-08T19:47:03Z")
**xt:** \* Why some of you feel the need to demean and degrade (without violating the letter of the GD rules of course) is beyond me. \* Huh? Other than **SM** ’s illegal “idiot” snap, what exactly was “demeaning and degrading” or “vicious” about the responses to the OP? There was indeed a certain amount of sarcasm and irritation in response to the fact that the OP and the OP’s subsequent posts were basically just taunts backed up by some Internet tinfoil-hattery, but that hardly counts as “viciousness”, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867/20 "2004-08-08T20:24:57Z")
Hell, I stand to win some serious dough (about $25,000) when Bush loses. Trust me, I stab the voodoo doll every day. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-believe-bush-wont-get-re-elected/258867.md?page=2)