# Does anyone else hate Andy Serkis as much as I do? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 22, 2022, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213 "2022-04-22T02:49:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/1 "2022-04-22T02:49:08Z")
Physical turn the screen off revulsion. If i were a billionaire I’d pay him whatever he asked to just kick the shit out of him. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/2 "2022-04-22T02:50:22Z")
Care to elaborate, my precious? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/3 "2022-04-22T02:57:03Z")
Are you including all his motion capture work in this, or just stuff where you can actually see him? ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/4 "2022-04-22T05:09:18Z")
Is there some actual reason for this or what? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/5 "2022-04-22T05:26:02Z")
Another question for the list: Is this hatred based on just his performances or is it based on something involving his offscreen life? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/6 "2022-04-22T06:18:37Z")
That’s an…interesting reaction. Now, tell me more about … your father. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/7 "2022-04-22T09:45:49Z")
I’ve seen only one film in which he was the top-billed star (_Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll_, a biopic about Ian Dury) and he seems to have carried it well enough. He’s a bit funny-looking to me, sort of like Rowan Atkinson is, but by no means repulsive. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/8 "2022-04-22T09:59:55Z")
Seems to me that he’s very talented, yet funny-looking enough not to hate him out of envy. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/9 "2022-04-22T13:15:29Z")
Serkis! We hates it, we hates it, we hates it forever! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/10 "2022-04-22T13:17:21Z")
Thus far, the answer to the OP appears to be “no”. He’s an extremely talented and funny man. A pioneer of motion capture acting. Seems to be nice enough IRL from what little I know of his offscreen existence. Married with a couple of kids, all of whom are actors as well. Does a hilarious Theresa May impression. I’ve not heard any bad stories about him. So - still “no”. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/11 "2022-04-22T13:45:25Z")
Some of the roles that he has played were of people that I would like to kick the shit out of, but the actor himself has never done anything to my knowledge to warrant any such reaction. ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/12 "2022-04-22T14:38:33Z")
I think it’s just you, OP. ---
**Author:** ![wjChia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d6d6ee/32.png) [@wjChia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wjChia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/13 "2022-04-22T15:23:37Z")
Not to the level of hatred in the OP, but I dislike him for trying to diminish the work of all the CG artists who worked their asses off to get his motion capture performances to the big screen. > **[VFX Artists Are Starting To Get Pissed At Andy Serkis](https://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/vfx-artists-are-pissed-at-andy-serkis/)** > > VFX artist are sick and tired of Andy Serkis acting like dancing around in a leotard is the most important part of FX work. > **[Andy Serkis Does Everything, Animators Do Nothing, Says Andy Serkis](https://www.cartoonbrew.com/motion-capture/andy-serkis-does-everything-animators-do-nothing-says-andy-serkis-98868.html)** > > In his never-ending quest to be recognized as a serious thespian, character actor Andy Serkis continues to minimize the role of the animators who make his performances possible. With each interview he gives, Serkis seems to do more and more of the... ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/14 "2022-04-22T15:30:25Z")
> [@wjChia](#): > > Not to the level of hatred in the OP, but I dislike him for trying to diminish the work of all the CG artists who worked their asses off to get his motion capture performances to the big screen. You might be onto something there regarding the OP. This hit the news a couple of days ago: > **[Andy Serkis to Direct Animated Adaptation of ‘Animal Farm’ for Cinesite](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/andy-serkis-animal-farm-1235236642/)** > > Andy Serkis, who recently appeared in 'The Batman,' is directing an animated version of George Orwell's classic novel 'Animal Farm.' ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/15 "2022-04-22T16:25:15Z")
I’m kind of torn on this; on one hand, you could reasonably look at motion-capture CGI characters as being effectively a sort of costume an actor wears. That was Serkis moving and talking in LOTR, and just with a Gollum-skin, in a sense. On the other hand, it’s a LOT more than just a costume or “skin”. The character can move differently, be differently sized, made of different material than a person, which makes the CGI/VFX people as critical as the actor themselves. I sort of think they need to have more awards categories than just “Visual Effects”. I mean, a team might absolutely knock it out of the park on a CGI character, but the entire movie as a whole might not measure up. That’s not a reason that the character CGI folks shouldn’t be recognized- costume design and hair/makeup are separate awards, so why not “digital costuming” or something like that? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/16 "2022-04-22T16:34:01Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Andy Serkis to Direct Animated Version of 'Animal Farm' for Cinesite](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/andy-serkis-animal-farm-1235236642/) > “The Batman” star Andy Serkis” \< SNIP \> I didn’t know Andy Serkis ever played Batman. TIL, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![wjChia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d6d6ee/32.png) [@wjChia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wjChia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/17 "2022-04-22T16:39:33Z")
Alfred, not Batman (in case this wasn’t sarcasm) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/18 "2022-04-22T16:49:31Z")
Well, it kinda WAS sarcasm, but it didn’t go the way I expected. I thought someone would point out that he was doing a motion-capture as some grotesque Batman foe. Then I would say that that was more of a Special Guest Villain role than a star. Not that I consider Alfred any more of a starring role than Robin, Commissioner Gordon, Chief O’Hara or Aunt Harriet. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/19 "2022-04-22T21:13:04Z")
I figure Serkis must have been confused when he got the Age of Ultron script. “Hey, guys, I was reading the script and there was a scene where my character is actually there on the set and is attacked by a CGI effect character. I think you accidentally switched my script with James Spader’s.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213/20 "2022-04-22T21:21:41Z")
> [@wjChia](#): > > Not to the level of hatred in the OP, but I dislike him for trying to diminish the work of all the CG artists who worked their asses off to get his motion capture performances to the big screen. It seems strange that Serkis would belittle the work of the animators. Serkis isn’t just the actor in these scenes. He’s also the owner of Imaginarium Productions, the company that did the stop-motion animation for _Rise of the Planet of the Apes_ and _Age of Ultron_. So those CG artists work for Serkis. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-andy-serkis-as-much-as-i-do/963213.md?page=2)