# Does anyone else hate the name "Cafe Society"?

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**Created:** [September 1, 2001, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304 "2001-09-01T17:19:37Z")
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### Author: ![curiousgeorgeordeadcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@curiousgeorgeordeadcat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curiousgeorgeordeadcat)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/1 "2001-09-01T17:19:37Z")

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I wasn’t sure if this should be an IMHO thread or an ATMB  
thread. Hopefully, I picked the right one…

Doesn’t this name basically serve to perpetuate a  
stereotype of artistic people hanging out in cafes?  
I consider myself a fan of many art forms. But I hate  
cafes. I am sure there are many others like me. And  
I guess this is why the name makes me angry!!!

(If there were some scientific evidence that artistic people  
hang out in cafes, then I would retract my complaint.  
But I don’t think it is true. Please correct me if I am  
wrong.)

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### Author: ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/2 "2001-09-01T18:40:25Z")

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You don’t need to, and in fact probably shouldn’t, hit enter at the end of each line. Unless that was supposed to be free verse.

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### Author: ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/3 "2001-09-01T18:41:43Z")

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well what i find intersting is ‘cafe society’ doesn’t really fit into the naming conventions of other catagories - perhaps ‘arts and entertainment questions’ or the ‘arts society’ if they want to keep the society in hte title might have been a better title. But I’m not offended by it but don’t plan to visit it much as it is not my cup of tea.

but that’s just my humble O

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### Author: ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/4 "2001-09-01T19:21:52Z")

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I’m with **k2dave**. I held back posting to the **Bill H** thread until I gave that forum a chance.

Well, I’ve given that forum a chance and even now I can’t even get past the name of it. “Cafe Society”. Every time I see that I immediately think ::Starbucks… STARBUCKS!!::

Those damn places are _everywhere_ now.

I haven’t been in there, or Starbucks, yet… those places scare me.

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### Author: ![Poirot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@Poirot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poirot)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/5 "2001-09-01T19:53:40Z")

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I’m artistic (perhaps arty at times) and also fond of cafés, caffès and Kaffee Klatchen.

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/6 "2001-09-01T21:44:12Z")

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So, do you have any better name suggestions? It took us a couple of months to come up with that one.

I think the problem is that, for some inexplicable reason, you’re associating Starbucks with the word “Cafe”. I don’t see the connection.

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### Author: ![MysterEcks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MysterEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysterEcks)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/7 "2001-09-01T21:55:09Z")

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I don’t much care for the name either–it’s a bit too artsy-fartsy for me. I’m creative and write fiction and all that, but the image I get from “Cafe Society” is one that just doesn’t fit me at all.

How 'bout something like **That’s Entertainment**?

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### Author: ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/8 "2001-09-01T22:41:27Z")

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If you ask me, I like the name, “Arts and Entertainment”, proposed by **k2dave** above.

I don’t know why, it just has that _ring_ to it. Plus, it makes it sound all noble like the A&E channel tries to be.

“Cafe Society” just sounds so… so… coffee house cheesy. It’s friends “Central Perk” smarmy - You know, like, I, just gag me with a spoon already, yiiii!. Let’s go have a triple cafe double decaf, huh!?!

It’s so… smug.

Go with the details. Go with the technical, straight up, nothing but the truth here, name- “Arts and Entertainment”.

Simplicity, and straightforwardness, rules!!

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### Author: ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/9 "2001-09-01T22:50:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> So, do you have any better name suggestions? It took us a **couple of months** to come up with that one.

A couple months and you couldn’t post it asking for suggestions? Why all the hush-hush then suddenly spring it on us. Or did you ask and I just missed it - it doesn’t seem so from the post here in ATMB?

I know this is your board and you can do whatever you want with it but I see no reason why you didn’t keep us informed and/or ask for input if you were wrestling with it for a couple of months.

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### Author: ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/10 "2001-09-01T22:52:31Z")

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Hyperbolized!

That’s the damn word I was looking for.

Cafe society sounds too hyperbolized a term when comparing it to the other forums.

The other forums are straight up and to the point.

The hyperbolization in the cafe forum name seems oddly out of context when taken with the others.  
Ahhh. Much better now.

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### Author: ![Ross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@Ross](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ross)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/11 "2001-09-01T23:21:26Z")

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I have considered opening a cafe called _Pseud’s Place_ - a Pseud being a pseudo-intellectual. For my kind of people, who like to hang out and discuss art and cinema and drink coffee, but who are sheepishly aware of how quickly such conversations can… um, shall we say, “go very deeply into the surface of things”? Not that I’m suggesting that’s what’ll happen in Cafe Society. I’ve barely visited, but the thread titles seem very interesting. It’s just what happens when _my_ friends enter a cafe!

I consider myself a pseudo-intellectual. One with intellect enough to have some fascination with art, but humility enough to regard my fascination as a learning process.

That’s what I’d have called it, anyway. Given that _Central Perk_ and _Starbucks_ are taken.

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### Author: ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2001, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/12 "2001-09-01T23:45:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Chronos \*  
> **It took us a couple of months to come up with that one.**

See, that’s the problem right there. You guys tried handling this within the moderator mode. When are you going to learn that moderators can’t do anything right. Once you’re given that title, all the brains are sucked out of your head.

Leave it to us… we can name it.

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### Author: ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2001, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/13 "2001-09-02T17:50:48Z")

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Yes. It suggests highbrow and ‘artsy-fartsy’ stuff, when rock/pop music and TV like The Simpsons have just as much place there.

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### Author: ![Buffy\_McNextime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@Buffy\_McNextime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buffy_McNextime)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2001, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/14 "2001-09-02T18:19:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \*  
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Chronos \*  
> > **It took us a couple of months to come up with that one.**
> 
> See, that’s the problem right there. You guys tried handling this within the moderator mode. When are you going to learn that moderators can’t do anything right. Once you’re given that title, all the brains are sucked out of your head.
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> Leave it to us… we can name it. \*\*

No need to be cruel! Cut them some slack. It’s not easy to think when your brains are sucked out, but they don’t need to be reminded of it all the time.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2001, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/15 "2001-09-02T18:26:14Z")

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Don’t blame me. _I_ wanted to name it **Three Tenors To Three Stooges** , or **TTTTS** for short. 🙂

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### Author: ![Buffy\_McNextime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@Buffy\_McNextime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buffy_McNextime)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2001, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/16 "2001-09-02T18:33:37Z")

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Much better! Do we have a second on the motion? All in favor say aye.

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### Author: ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2001, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/17 "2001-09-02T18:40:06Z")

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Aye aye! _ **Much** _ better!

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2001, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/18 "2001-09-02T20:31:30Z")

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So, **Tsarcasm** , how do you think that folks would end up pronouncing that one? 😉

And when do I get my brains back? I’m going to need 'em in a few days here…

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### Author: ![Daniel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Daniel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daniel)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2001, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/19 "2001-09-02T20:58:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by IJGrieve \*  
> \*\*Yes. It suggests highbrow and ‘artsy-fartsy’ \*\*

ooh, I like that. **Artsy Fartsy** becoming the new forum name gets my vote.

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### Author: ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2001, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/20 "2001-09-02T21:26:26Z")

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Aye. A much better indication of the forum’s range.

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