# Does anyone else hate the name "Cafe Society"?

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**Created:** [September 1, 2001, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304 "2001-09-01T17:19:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2001, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/41 "2001-09-08T15:09:03Z")

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That’s the right timeframe, I think…

Why did I ask? Well, Italian coffee would be, what, cafe italiano? Then a joke translation of Kafee Klatchen would be Klatchian coffee, that is, coffee from a place called Klatch. And in Terry Pratchett’s Discworld series, Klatch is a Arabic/African/Indian sort of place known for their dangerously strong coffee. I don’t know if that was an intentional joke or not…

–John

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**Author:** ![BarnStormer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f8ce5/32.png) [@BarnStormer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnStormer)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2001, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/42 "2001-09-09T18:39:06Z")

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I love the name. It’s actually more interesting than most of the others, except that MPSIMS is clever when you know what it stands for.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2001, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/43 "2001-09-09T19:16:54Z")

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[sub]coffee klatsch[/sub]

Oh, you youngsters.

A “coffee klatsch” was not an uncommon expression as I grew up in the 1950’s. It even was uttered by Jimmy Cagney in _Yankee Doodle Dandy_ in 1942, **``This war is a coffee klatsch compared to what I go through in the course of a musical show."**. His audience certainly knew what it meant.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/44 "2001-09-10T09:54:15Z")

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Well, there’s always “Cawfee Tawk (with Linda Richmond”…

[sub]“I’m getting all verklempt. Talk amongst yourselves. Here’s a topic: A fishstick is neither a fish nor a stick. Discuss.”[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/45 "2001-09-10T15:53:16Z")

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I agree “Cafe Society” is dumb. Instead, it would have been cool to borrow a phrase from Monty Python:

**It’s the Arts**

[sub]Remember Arthur “Two Sheds” Jackson?[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/46 "2001-09-10T19:15:15Z")

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I don’t love it, I don’t hate it, but every time I see it I _do_ hear Cartman say “Ca-fay Socie-tay,” which amuses me enormously, so I say keep it.

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**Author:** ![Cafe\_Society](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@Cafe\_Society](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cafe_Society)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/47 "2001-09-10T23:03:01Z")

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I think it’s here to stay, so I’m going with it.

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**Author:** ![Delta-9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Delta-9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delta-9)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/48 "2001-09-12T21:14:32Z")

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I vote for “Arts & Entertainment.” I think it’s much more descriptive of the actual content of the forum. The current name sounds a little too snobbish for me.

Not that we’re voting or anything.

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**Author:** ![Show\_Biz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@Show\_Biz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Show_Biz)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-hate-the-name-cafe-society/79304/49 "2001-09-13T16:19:07Z")

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I think having a separate forum for the arts is a good idea.  
I was surprized to see it. I never expected a new forum.

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