# Does anyone else have a hard accepting republican voters are decent people lately? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 22, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514 "2017-10-22T01:06:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/361 "2017-10-26T20:16:06Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Stop us from what? Stop us from locking the parents away, and/or freezing their assets, and/or executing them, or whatever, as per the penalties on the books for the laws they’ve broken. And in any such case, I guess the blameless kid would suddenly be in a worse situation than before; but we still punish the kid’s parents in such cases, right? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/362 "2017-10-26T20:34:27Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Stop us from locking the parents away, and/or freezing their assets, and/or executing them, or whatever, as per the penalties on the books for the laws they’ve broken. And in any such case, I guess the blameless kid would suddenly be in a worse situation than before; but we still punish the kid’s parents in such cases, right? Do we throw them in a country that they left before they could walk? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/363 "2017-10-26T20:53:56Z")
If Trump is as horrible as the Left says (and I think he is- that’s why I threw my vote away on Evan McMullin), it makes you wonder why Hillary cashed all his checks. And went to his wedding. And let her husband play golf at his country clubs (where Bill STILL has a membership). And if Trump really hates Hillary so much, it makes you wonder why he gave her so much money. And invited her to his wedding. And lets Bill Clinton play at his country clubs. Get the feeling these two aren’t really as different or as inimical as they pretend? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/364 "2017-10-26T20:55:23Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Do we throw them in a country that they left before they could walk? So, if my parents sneak me and my brother into Disney World without paying, do I get to stay for free because it was my parents’ fault? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/365 "2017-10-26T21:25:43Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > So, if my parents sneak me and my brother into Disney World without paying, do I get to stay for free because it was my parents’ fault? No, but they also are not allowed to throw you into the alligator pit. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/366 "2017-10-26T21:36:36Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > So, if my parents sneak me and my brother into Disney World without paying, do I get to stay for free because it was my parents’ fault? Would you get to stay if they gave you a job? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/367 "2017-10-26T21:44:44Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > The way I see it, Democrats have no problem taking money from immoral people - as long as those people don’t run for office themselves. > > And I think we are close to agreement that I too feel the democrats don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to moral claims seeing how they take money from one of the countries most immoral sources - Hollywood. No - most Hollywood types don’t run for office (some might in 2020) but that doesn’t mean they cant still control politicians thru financial ties. Democrats love to have their picture taken and get endorsements from Hollywood celebrities. They don’t give a damn of that persons morals. I don’t think Hollywood is anywhere near as immoral as you feel it is. Hollywood raises a lot of money and awareness for various charities all over the world. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/368 "2017-10-26T21:46:51Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, in the first place, they’re not all workers. And as for their being undocumented, that begs the obvious question of why are they undocumented. > > Life is much simpler and more honest when you don’t jump through hoops and play word games to try to avoid inconvenient truths. I disagree, it is about framing. Both sides frame issues to increase or decrease public support. “Illegal immigrant” causes more hostility than ‘undocumented worker’ the same way ‘death tax’ causes more hostility than ‘estate tax’. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/369 "2017-10-26T21:47:55Z")
Is that you, Forest? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/370 "2017-10-26T21:49:11Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > If Trump is as horrible as the Left says (and I think he is- that’s why I threw my vote away on Evan McMullin), it makes you wonder why Hillary cashed all his checks. And went to his wedding. And let her husband play golf at his country clubs (where Bill STILL has a membership). > > And if Trump really hates Hillary so much, it makes you wonder why he gave her so much money. And invited her to his wedding. And lets Bill Clinton play at his country clubs. > > Get the feeling these two aren’t really as different or as inimical as they pretend? Lots of people can be horrible in their personal life, but being a horrible person and being president are not the same thing. I may not like horrible people, but I really do not want them in positions of power. Trump is in a position of power and influence right now. If he were just a reality TV star and the exact same person I wouldn’t care about him much at all. I don’t know if Trump really believes anything other than the glorification of Trump. When being pals with Hillary made his ego bigger, he did that. When tearing into her made it bigger, he did that. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/371 "2017-10-27T13:46:19Z")
I don’t know, I’ve never tried. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/372 "2017-10-27T16:19:53Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > … that’s why I threw my vote away on Evan McMullin … > > Get the feeling these two aren’t really as different or as inimical as they pretend? No. But I’m glad you threw away your vote, I guess. ~ ~ ~ ~ > [@The\_Tooth](#): > > **Does anyone else have a hard accepting republican voters are decent people lately?** > I don’t know, I’ve never tried. Smart aleck! The missing word is _time_. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/373 "2017-10-27T16:45:14Z")
I’ve never considered them decent people, or felt any obligation to do so. I can’t see a decent person associating themselves with such a blatantly malignant and irrational organization as the Republican party. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/374 "2017-10-27T17:48:40Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > No. > But I’m glad you threw away your vote, I guess. > > ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Smart aleck! The missing word is _time_. No smartaleckery here! I don’t have a hard time accepting Trump supporters as decent people because I’ve never tried. Decent people don’t support politicians who promise to torture prisoners and murder their families. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/375 "2017-10-27T18:08:52Z")
“Conservatives think liberals have bad ideas; liberals think conservatives are bad people.” QFT ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/376 "2017-10-27T18:11:11Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > “Conservatives think liberals have bad ideas; liberals think conservatives are bad people.” > > QFT HA!! Why yes, conservatives only thought Clinton’s ideas were bad, but respected her as a person. That’s _totally_ the case. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/377 "2017-10-27T18:13:19Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > HA!! > > Why yes, conservatives only thought Clinton’s ideas were bad, but respected her as a person. That’s _totally_ the case. And Barack Husein Obama. They respected the hell out of that guy. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/378 "2017-10-27T18:14:08Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > “Conservatives think liberals have bad ideas; liberals think conservatives are bad people.” > > QFT Have you even read Twitter? This quote is a joke. And not for nothing, as I wrote a few pages back I know many conservatives who are good people (albeit wrong) but by and large a shitty person tends to be Conservative so no, not all Conservatives are bad people but bad people tend to be Conservative. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/379 "2017-10-27T18:15:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > “Conservatives think liberals have bad ideas; liberals think conservatives are bad people.” > > QFT Wasn’t that George Will, a conservative, who coined that phrase? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/380 "2017-10-27T18:20:38Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Have you even read Twitter? This quote is a joke. > > And not for nothing, as I wrote a few pages back I know many conservatives who are good people (albeit wrong) but by and large a shitty person tends to be Conservative so no, not all Conservatives are bad people but bad people tend to be Conservative. That’s because if you are a shitty person around a bunch of liberals, they will ignore you, dismiss you, and ultimately tell you to get the fuck away from them. If you are a shitty person around a bunch of conservatives, they elect you president. Far more rewards for shitty people on the right than on the left. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514.md?page=20)