# Does anyone else have a hard accepting republican voters are decent people lately? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 22, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514 "2017-10-22T01:06:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/441 "2017-11-01T03:29:39Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > The outrage about “Illegal Immigration” is really just racism restated because the only immigration they care about is Hispanic immigration. > > Yes, it is a crime but it is a crime of paperwork like driving with an expired license. The vast majority if illegal immigrants are people who allowed their visa to expire. Just paperwork. And of course when the person is from Britain they don’t get so mad. “Hispanic” is not a “race.” And are you a mind reader? How do you know what motivates people to desire enforcement of immigration law? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/442 "2017-11-01T11:03:29Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > The outrage about “Illegal Immigration” is really just racism restated because the only immigration they care about is Hispanic immigration. Nope. I’m outraged by “Illegal Immigration”, and care about it regardless. ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/443 "2017-11-01T11:25:50Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Now, now. They also worry about Islamic terrorists sneaking in. And unfortunately, it’s another example of racism, because on Bullshit Mountain, “Muslim,” “Arabic,” “Islamic,” and “terrorist” are all synonyms. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/444 "2017-11-01T12:30:27Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > And unfortunately, it’s another example of racism, because on Bullshit Mountain, “Muslim,” “Arabic,” “Islamic,” and “terrorist” are all synonyms. Well, that’s an interestingly specific claim; could anything, hypothetically, make you rethink it? Like, if a Republican voter cleared his throat and explained that he knows full well how folks decidedly paler than himself have converted to Islam; what then? And if two people, _two_ people, do it in harmony… ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/445 "2017-11-01T13:00:33Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > And unfortunately, it’s another example of racism, because on Bullshit Mountain, “Muslim,” “Arabic,” “Islamic,” and “terrorist” are all synonyms. Islamic and Muslim aren’t synonyms? 😕 Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/446 "2017-11-01T17:31:18Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Islamic and Muslim aren’t synonyms? 😕 > > Regards, > Shodan Lol. Obviously, yes. A cleaner form of that sentence would have been that Muslim, Arabic, and Islamic are all synonyms for “terrorist” for many people taking a hard stance against any immigration. ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/447 "2017-11-01T17:34:04Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Well, that’s an interestingly specific claim; could anything, hypothetically, make you rethink it? Like, if a Republican voter cleared his throat and explained that he knows full well how folks decidedly paler than himself have converted to Islam; what then? And if two people, _two_ people, do it in harmony… Not all Republicans live on Bullshit Mountain. Or all Democrats for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/448 "2017-11-01T18:18:03Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > Lol. Obviously, yes. A cleaner form of that sentence would have been that Muslim, Arabic, and Islamic are all synonyms for “terrorist” for many people taking a hard stance against any immigration. I am not aware that many people take a hard stance against any immigration. I know lots of people are against illegal immigration, and lots more who are against terrorism, but rather few who think that nobody should be allowed to immigrate to America. IOW the confusion of terms seems mostly to be on your part. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/449 "2017-11-01T18:25:49Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Well, that’s an interestingly specific claim; could anything, hypothetically, make you rethink it? Like, if a Republican voter cleared his throat and explained that he knows full well how folks decidedly paler than himself have converted to Islam; what then? And if two people, _two_ people, do it in harmony… But then they’ll just think “_they’re both faggots_” and won’t listen to them. But then if you get 50 people a day doing it they’ll think it’s a movement, but not the _“Alice’s Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement”_, but a completely different movement. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/450 "2017-11-01T19:34:32Z")
I find your thoughts interesting, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter, which I assume includes 8x10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one describing what each one was to be used as evidence against me. Including the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner, the southwest corner, and that’s not to mention the aerial photography. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/451 "2017-11-01T20:04:26Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Now, now. They also worry about Islamic terrorists sneaking in. Yes! And as I’ve been told by racists, Islam isn’t a race, so it isn’t racism to fear them! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/452 "2017-11-01T20:11:15Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yes! And as I’ve been told by racists, Islam isn’t a race, so it isn’t racism to fear them! So you’ve been told something _accurate_ by racists? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/453 "2017-11-01T20:26:55Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yes! And as I’ve been told by racists, Islam isn’t a race, so it isn’t racism to fear them! Right, it’s a lifestyle choice. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/454 "2017-11-01T20:33:48Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > So you’ve been told something _accurate_ by racists? I’ve been told a flimsy, technically accurate excuse. Racists generally do not consult dictionaries as a matter of self reflection. Generally they do so to provide wet tissue level flimsy cover. (As in, that racist feared that brown guy before he ever knew his religion.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/455 "2017-11-01T20:37:46Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I’ve been told a flimsy, technically accurate excuse. Racists generally do not consult dictionaries as a matter of self reflection. Generally they do so to provide wet tissue flimsy level cover. Well, look, if I met someone who wanted to discriminate against women – or bar all atheists from serving on juries – or exterminate all homosexuals! – I’d of course find him to be monstrous and bigoted and evil and any one of a hundred other things; but if someone were to reply to any of those declarations with a quick _“that’s racist,”_ I’d say, “hang on, that’s – wait, _what?_ Why would you even _say_ that?” ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/456 "2017-11-01T20:46:55Z")
People who hate all Muslims aren’t racist. People who hate all Jewish people aren’t racist; but I think we can all agree that people who identify with those religions tend to be born into them and members of a specific racial group. But you’re right that racist isn’t 100% accurate; probably better to just call them bigots. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/457 "2017-11-01T20:50:28Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > … probably better to just call them bigots. I suppose if it makes them feel better about themselves I’ll give it a try. I’ll do it for the racists. (pats racist on the head: "There there, little bigot. I’m sorry I called you a racist.) ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/458 "2017-11-01T21:03:01Z")
I generally assume that the type of bigots who believe that all members of X religion are terrorists or whatever also believe that all people of Y race are of X religion, and thus they’re probably racists too. Bigoted stupidity is as bigoted stupidity does, at least reliably enough for government work, hand grenades, and to justify me slinging slurs. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/459 "2017-11-01T22:20:02Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Well, Cory Booker is a senator, but was previously the mayor of a major city, so has relevant executive experience [and hasn’t ruled out running in 2020.](http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/340632-booker-i-dont-know-if-ill-run-in-2020) Booker is one of the weaker candidates to run in 2020. [![](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ap20231683147204.jpg) ](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ap20231683147204.jpg) > [@](#): > > Biden, 74, has the greatest advantage over Trump by 18 percent (56 to 38 percent), followed by Sanders, 76, with a 15 percent advantage (53 to 38 percent). Sanders is an independent, but he ran a competitive campaign for the Democratic nomination in 2016. > > PPP found Sen. Cory Booker, the first black U.S. senator from New Jersey, has an 11 percent advantage over Trump (49 to 38 percent). > > Trailing Booker are Sens. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y, who are white and each lead Trump by 10 percent (50 to 40 percent, and 48 to 38 percent respectively). > > And finally, PPP notes that Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., and Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., both female lawmakers of color, draw up the rear as 2020 contenders against Trump. They both do have a lead over Trump, but Harris, who has been talked about as a 2020 favorite, only leads by 6 percent (45 to 39 percent); Wilson, who has clashed recently with the Trump administration about Trump’s recent call with a Gold Star widow, has a 3-percent advantage (42 to 39 percent). But by 2020 people may have forgotten who Biden was. Who knows, also 2016 showed polling wasn’t uber reliable. I do like the fact that even Frederica Wilson is ahead of Trump in a 2020 poll. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514/460 "2017-11-10T13:09:53Z")
This Roy Moore thing, and continued GOP support for the pedophile, pretty much answers the OP’s question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-have-a-hard-accepting-republican-voters-are-decent-people-lately/799514.md?page=24)