# Does anyone else think "Brother Bear" looks exceptionally lame?

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**Created:** [October 24, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-think-brother-bear-looks-exceptionally-lame/209271 "2003-10-24T06:34:46Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-think-brother-bear-looks-exceptionally-lame/209271/21 "2003-10-29T05:31:34Z")

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Saw it last night.

It isn’t particularly bad, but it isn’t particularly good, either. I don’t see it being of much interest to anybody over ten, but it did seem to keep the attention of the children in the audience (it was also a Radio Disney screening).

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-think-brother-bear-looks-exceptionally-lame/209271/22 "2003-10-29T06:53:32Z")

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Saw it tonight. Not bad; not great. Some cute stuff, a really obvious moral, a couple of jokes for the parents. Par for the course, really.

The sad thing is, it’s the best cartoon Disney has made since _Mulan_ (not counting _Lilo and Stitch_, which was kind of a guerrilla production inside the company and wasn’t expected to be much of anything). Sort of an unfortunate commentary on how much magic the company has lost.

So while I didn’t hate it, I have no great desire to see it again.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-think-brother-bear-looks-exceptionally-lame/209271/23 "2003-10-29T07:08:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astro \*  
> \*\*Are these two beloved by Canadians for their SCTV McKenzie Brothers sketches, or reviled for portraying working class Canadians as easily distracted, hockey obsessed, weepily patriotic, beer guzzling caricatures that bring shame on all Canadians? \*\*

I’m half Canadian and I love 'em, eh!

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-think-brother-bear-looks-exceptionally-lame/209271/24 "2003-10-29T08:04:38Z")

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Brother Bear looks like it sucks, loved the Emporer’s New Groove though – wish they’d do something funny and song-free like that again. I hate the preachy ones. There can be morals, but the need to be sneaky about it, not hit me in the face with a frying pan.

I actually liked Atlantis quite a bit, for the most part, if just because I could watch almost anything with Leonard Nimoy’s voice in it. I haven’t seen any of the more recent ones, though.

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**Author:** ![Jinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Jinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jinx)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-think-brother-bear-looks-exceptionally-lame/209271/25 "2003-10-29T10:05:42Z")

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1. I am usually the cynic, but I find Brother Bear appealing. I am very interested in seeing it. But, I REFUSE to pay theatre prices. I will wait for the video…all in due time.

2a. Rick (moron) Moranis is a Disney stand-by, seems to me. Just like Don Knotts or Ken Howard? - the guy from the Kinney shoe commercials, Mayberry, F-Troop, Momma’s Family, and whole host of other roles. At least I could learn to like these guys, but not Rick…maybe I have him type cast as the absolute boob?

2b. God, you mean I might actually have to admit I like Rick Moranis? I like the MacKenzie Brothers routines from SCTV (and radio), but they were all no-names back then, IIRC, including John Candy. Other than John Candy, I can’t tell you who was in the cast, but I loved SCTV! (BTW: Who played the dude in the wheelchair, and what his character’s name on SCTV?)

But, yuk…Rick “Moron” Moranis? Really? Say it isn’t so, Joe! He is so lame…just as bad as Alan Thicke, but I’d pick Rick over Alan if I had to choose.

Now I’ve lost my appetite…multiple face slaps for me!  
:smack: :smack: :smack: …it’s a SCTV tradition!

- Jinx

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-think-brother-bear-looks-exceptionally-lame/209271/26 "2003-10-29T12:22:38Z")

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[http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/master.html](http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/master.html)

Bernardinelli is a good reviewer, and he’s not like the damned “artist-reviewers” who get off on condemning anything anyone outside their little clique might want to watch. He says its not super-great, but 3/5 is a competant movie worth watching. Give it a shot.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-else-think-brother-bear-looks-exceptionally-lame/209271/27 "2003-10-29T14:55:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by rjung \*  
> \*\*That’s the scuttlebutt I heard – after **Atlantis: The Lost Empire** and **Treasure Planet** tanked, Disney decided to jump on the computer-animated bandwagon (read: Pixar), shifted everything to CGI, and told their animators to either get trained on the computers or get booted. **Brother Bear** got “spared” only because it was already far enough along that there wasn’t a point in scuttling it. \*\*

Huh. Right the year that _Spirited Away_ took the Animated-feature Oscar. Weird, the thought process of corporate management is. I do hope, as has been mentioned, that they realize that Pixar’s success has to do with content and not just presentation. In any case, even conventional cel animation by now relies heavily on CG technology for backgrounds, in-betweens, FX, etc (e.g. _Tarzan_’s “Deep Canvas”), so it’s not that much of a leap.

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