# Does anyone in the USA actually say "happy holidays"? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 22, 2004, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145 "2004-12-22T13:31:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/201 "2004-12-24T12:44:58Z")
Well you’re not trying very hard. It’s on channel four at 15.00, 16.05, 18.10, 20.25 and 22.35 (not sure if this is the same thing repeated or installments) I would NEVER mess about with the Simpsons. No way. Info and clips here: > **[The Simpsons](https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-simpsons)** > > They're unique, they're extraordinary and they're yellow. Say hello to the Simpsons. ---
**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/202 "2004-12-24T12:50:31Z")
> [@Jaade](#): > > How about those who celebrate Hanukkah and Kwanzaa :smack: Sammy Davis Jr. has died. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/203 "2004-12-24T13:01:15Z")
Even though “happy holidays” sounds odd to me, IMO our “season’s greetings” statement negates the entire rant. We do the same thing but we use different words. > [@GomiBoy](#): > > Now, I’m going to drive my American ass in my Swedish car to my London home and my Australian girlfriend and **drink myself into a coma**.[/SIZE] Dear God, the boy’s gone native! ---
**Author:** ![Shrinking\_Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Shrinking\_Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shrinking_Violet)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/204 "2004-12-24T13:09:49Z")
> [@owlstretchingtime](#): > > Well you’re not trying very hard. > > It’s on channel four at 15.00, 16.05, 18.10, 20.25 and 22.35 (not sure if this is the same thing repeated or installments) > > I would NEVER mess about with the Simpsons. No way. > > Info and clips here: > > [http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/S/simpsons/](http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/S/simpsons/) I was looking at the Sky listings, and they just list all these as various Simpsons episodes - doesn’t say \*anything \* about a Christmas Message. :smack: Thank you thank you thank you Owl - my Chrimbo is complete. ::big slobbery kiss:: Seasons Eatings!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/205 "2004-12-24T13:38:28Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > No “Happy Holidays” here either. > > Happy/Have a good/Merry Christmas is the saying whether you’re talking to Jew, Muslim, Atheist whatever. I’ve never known anyone to take offense. It’s basically shorthand for **"enjoy the couple of days on the piss"** Making this my new default seasonal greeting! ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/206 "2004-12-24T13:41:46Z")
> [@owlstretchingtime](#): > > Do you actually use this ridiculous expression Yes, because it’s so damn useful. In my own family we have Christians, Jews, Pagans, and Atheists. The Christians do Christmas, the Jews Channukah, the Pagans Yule, and the Atheists the Solstice. It’s a hell of a lot easier to say “Happy Holidays” than “Happy ChrismasChannakaYuleSolstice!” THEN I have co-workers who are Muslim, Hindu, Jain, Sikh, Ife, and Og knows _what_ else… It’s either everyone starts wearing labels saying “I’m celebrating ----, ----, and ----” or we go to “Happy Holidays” Mind you, I’m not fanatic - when I _know_ what religion a person is I’ll be specific and say “Merry Christmas” to the Christians, “Happy Channukah” to the Jews, and so on and so forth but there’s just too much variety when walking around in downtown Chicago. Maybe you don’t quite have a grip on just how diverse a US city is. Certainly, when I was in Europe (many years ago) I was amazed by the homogenity you folks have in your cities and towns. > [@](#): > > If you do - Shame on you. What on earth do you think you are doing? Christmas offends absolutely no one apart from the offenderati and they’re unappeasable. No, _Christmas_ is not offensive - _shoving it down other peoples’ throats_ is the offensive part. Insisting that non-Christians take part is offensive. Maybe your own country or town is so overwhelming Christian that this isn’t a problem, but where I work about 1/3 of the work force is not Christian in any way, and never has been. The non-Christians don’t complain about the day off, but don’t think for a moment they go home to decorations and unwrap presents to Christmas carols on that day off. “Have a good day off on Christmas” is what they tell each other going out the door, but they are NOT celebrating the holiday. And, on occassion, I have volunteered to work on Christian holidays so my Christian co-workers _could_ take the day off. In which case “Christmas” is just another day at work for me. > [@](#): > > Stop it at once. It’s not your country or your culture - so fuck off. > [@](#): > > I’m sorry but “happy hoildays” is just plain wrong, and rather patronising to non-christians. As someone who has never been Christian, let me just say you are WRONG - it’s actually _refreshing_ when people acknowledge holidays without forcing me into a mold for their own comfort. If you think that is “patronizing” you need to re-learn what that word means. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/207 "2004-12-24T13:46:59Z")
> [@owlstretchingtime](#): > > “Happy Holidays” is partonising PC gobbledegook. Really? I’ve been hearing it about 35-40 years - I had no idea the “politically correct” movement was that old! > [@](#): > > Happy day after the winter solstice one and all. Check your calendar again - Christmas comes more than one day after the Solstice. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/208 "2004-12-24T14:06:28Z")
> [@owlstretchingtime](#): > > > [@Mehitabel](#): > > > > So…if you have a cow-orker named Fatima Khan, who just came back from visiting her family in Pakistan for Eid, and you met her at work today, you’d say to her “Happy Christmas!” without feeling the teensiest bit like a jerk? :dubious: > > The honest answer to this is yes. If I (or any other Brit) started walking on eggshells and treating her differently then that would be more likely to annoy the hypothetical Mrs Khan. That may be acceptable in YOUR neck of the woods, **owlstretchingtime** , but where I live that would be regarded as insensitive at best. Guess our respective cultures have different ways of showing respect towards others. > [@](#): > > You Americans are way too worried about hurting the feelings of people who simply don’t give a toss. Do you know for _a fact_ that Mrs. Kahn doesn’t “give a toss”, or is she merely keeping silent? While most folks I know don’t care WHAT sort of good wishes a stranger voices towards them, if you _know_ someone is of a particular tradition you should make some effort to acknowledge that and not simply assume they’re just like you. > [@](#): > > They know it’s christmas. They go to the Christmas party. They wear the comical hat. They buy their kids giant robot monster toys. They watch the James Bond film. They’re perfectly well adjusted about the fact that western tradition has a festival at this time of year and that festival is religious in orgin and that it is called Christmas. Yeah, they know it’s Christmas - but no, they do NOT automatically go to the Christmas party (many religions forbid participating in the rituals of other religions, even minor rituals). They do not wear silly hats (unless required by their own belief systems). They do not buy presents for their children - the Jews buy Channukah presents, but that’s for an entirely DIFFERENT holiday, and likewise for the other folks. In fact, many _do not buy presents at all_ at this time of year. I was not aware of James Bond films of any sort being a part of Christian rituals. It’s not a matter of being “well-adjusted” - I am aware of the Indian holiday Diwali, too, but I don’t celebrate it, having no reason to do so. These other winter (northern hemisphere) holidays are NOT some sort of “Christmas-Lite” or parody of Christmas - they are _entirely different_ holy days with entirely different origins. Ignoring them is just as rude as ignoring Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/209 "2004-12-24T14:40:14Z")
Anyway, **owlstretchingtime** : Happy Holidays! We were using that phrase before you were born, and we’ll be using after you’re dust. Enjoy yourself, and may the MIL give you crap all weekend. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/210 "2004-12-24T14:51:17Z")
> [@owlstretchingtime](#): > > So when do you stop saying this silly thing? How do you know? Or is it something that just peters out? Or do you (as I suspect) wait for the Christmas decorations to come down and all those people with inflatable illuminated santas (what is all that about BTW?) on their roofs to sober up and take them down? Actually, there are a notable number of my neighbors who _never_ take down their christmas lights on the house - they nailed them up years ago, only bother with them to change burned out bulbs. They turn the lights on from Thanksgiving to New Year’s, then leave them off the rest of the time. So, in that sense, the decorations never come down. But really, after the New Year’s Hangover Recovery Period everyone is assumed to be partied out until Chinese New Year and we revert to the default “have a good day” greeting. > [@](#): > > Owl - still faced with a carol concert, looking at holiday photos with the Mother in Law, being woken up at some unearthly hour tomorrow by rapacious brats demanding presents, which they will then proceed to break. Mind you; I am looking forward to Marge Simspon addressing the nation in the alternative Christmas message (she’s up against a well established performer though). Pity. Me, I plan to sleep in, lounge about the house quite a bit, maybe fly if I can get the airplane engine started (we’re having quite a cold snap, temp 1F/-17C) and if not that I’ll be out skiing this weekend. Also eat too much, watch movies, snuggle with Other Half, and generally have a Very Relaxing Weekend. Don’t know if that qualifies as a “Merry Christmas” but will certainly be a “Happy Holiday”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/211 "2004-12-24T14:57:48Z")
This is amazing. We’ve explained 6 ways from Tuesday why HH makes sense, and yet the anti-HH still insists that there is no reason to use it. It’s like these people are entirely impervious to logic. They continue to bleat their whine despite all reason, despite all good sense. Do these people have holly in their ears and Christmas pudding in their eyes? It’s as if any arguments to the contrary were not even posted at all. It’s like trying to argue the existance of geological strata on a fundie board. Might as well be mute. Fuck it. I give up. For those of you who insist on bleating that HH makes no sense, have a Merry fucking mythological baby born to a supposed “virgin” in a fucking barn so we can drink the sacramental raw chicken dropping nog day. :wally ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/212 "2004-12-24T15:48:52Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > And I said I was “torqued off” where in my post exactly? I’m sorry if I misread your proclomation that there is “no way in HELL would you catch me using such a stupid fakey, hearty, ‘hail fellow well met’, designed purposely to be PC and not offend phrase such as ‘Happy Holidays’”. Anyway, I was speaking more generally to the posters here who refuse to look at the facts (“Happy Holidays” was around long before PC considerations) or explain why it so sticks in their craw that people might be beningly inclusive of their non-Christian bretheren when passing along seasonal tiding. > [@](#): > > Wow, You need to get 8mm stamped on your forehead, I’ve NEVER seen anyone project so much about a post that said NOTHING of the kind. I merely said why I didn’t like the term 'happy holiday" and as I explained above, was about half serious about some of my post and half smartassed about it (the serious part I explained in my previous post). I never even remotely implied that I had the teensiest thought of their motives, or notion in my head of being all mad at them because THEY said it. My post was explaining why **I** don’t use the phrase. Not “explaining,” so much as “stating,” since your post is still full of crap. Happy Holidays isn’t PC. It’s just something people say, like “Hello,” or “Goodbye.” > [@](#): > > ??? Wow, and I thought I was a humbug. So what? I’m not all that crazy about the phrase, along with a lot of other phrases and words that have nothing to do with christmas, if I don’t like them, I simply don’t USE them. And that IS what the OP was asking, “do you use this phrase”. **NOT**"do you pound someone into pulp if they dare say it to you. If you’d read, with ANY comprehension at all, my first post, you would have seen that my first line was “if I have to say anything at all”. I pretty much boycott christmas, only using the “christmasy” nonsensical phrases for business purposes, or if someone says it to me. So there was NO fundie agenda to my post, AT ALL. The thread is filled with claims that the phrase is fakey, PC Gobbledygook, etc., so it clearly goes beyond the phrase and makes judgments on people who use it. > [@](#): > > I explained it again, but you proceeded to read all SORTSA evil fundie garbage into my post, and even after I explained “no, you are way off base” you still wanna peg me as having some vile forcing the christianity aspect of Christmas down others’ throats motives. Well, since nobody will explain why they hate the phrase except to say it is “PC,” I made the usual conclusion about people saying anything is “PC” – it’s a convenient slur for any situation where Big Whitey Patriarch WASP loses a little edge. One can’t argue against the purpose of inclusive or non-dergotory speech, so one just slurs the whole mess with a single, misapplied phrase. > [@](#): > > You’re a little stressed, perhaps a nice long bubble bath? I’m actually having a lovely Xmas, thanks. > [@](#): > > we wish you a merry christmas, we WISH you a merry CHRISTMAS…We WISH you a merry Christmas, and a HAAAAAPPPY new YEEEEAAAAAAR Same to you. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/213 "2004-12-24T17:39:47Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > the sacramental raw chicken dropping nog Actually, I cook mine. Bad salmonella experience. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/214 "2004-12-24T18:19:22Z")
I’m not an ancient pagan of norse heritage, but I have no problem if someone wants to schedule a meeting with me on Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/215 "2004-12-24T20:25:29Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I’m sorry if I misread your proclomation that there is “no way in HELL would you catch me using such a stupid fakey, hearty, ‘hail fellow well met’, designed purposely to be PC and not offend phrase such as ‘Happy Holidays’”. Anyway, I was speaking more generally to the posters here who refuse to look at the facts (“Happy Holidays” was around long before PC considerations) or explain why it so sticks in their craw that people might be beningly inclusive of their non-Christian bretheren when passing along seasonal tiding. Sorry, I guess **I** should have clarified better. I was under the impression that the OP was speaking of the corporate-speak FORCEFED use of the term. And basically, I lumped it in with all of the other forcefed PC crap we’re bombarded with. The old Bing Crosby/Peggy Lee type Happy Holidays wasn’t what I was smarting off about (and remember, as other posters picked up on, I wasn’t being all that serious). At any rate, the part of the “happy holidays” thing that i find irritating is the corporate/retail insistance for their employees and such that it is ABSOLUTELY VERBOTEN to use anything other than that term, that is THE only acceptable term, anyone caught using anything other than the authorized PC term (be it happy holidays, or African American or whatever). > [@](#): > > Not “explaining,” so much as “stating,” since your post is still full of crap. Happy Holidays isn’t PC. It’s just something people say, like “Hello,” > The thread is filled with claims that the phrase is fakey, PC Gobbledygook, etc., so it clearly goes beyond the phrase and makes judgments on people who use it. > or “Goodbye.” Answered to above. > [@](#): > > Well, since nobody will explain why they hate the phrase except to say it is “PC,” I made the usual conclusion about people saying anything is “PC” – it’s a convenient slur for any situation where Big Whitey Patriarch WASP loses a little edge. One can’t argue against the purpose of inclusive or non-dergotory speech, so one just slurs the whole mess with a single, misapplied phrase. No, I am annoyed at ANY “pc” term that where the use of such is forced and supposed to not offend. IF that is what we’re going to do, fine, but then we have to remove ANY AND ALL offensive language WHATSOEVER from our language. No Fuck, shit, and all the rest of George’s list ANYWHERE where it might be overheard and offend someone. Atheist and Christians alike will be subject to severe fines if they allude to their beliefs in the slightest where anyone not “authorized” to be able to hear their particular beliefs is present. And so on. So again, Happy Holidays in the old fashioned Bing Crosby/Peggy Lee sense? not a problem “Happy Holidays” as enforced by the corporate Gods in which you are FORCED to say it because it’s PC (such as answering phones, etc), No. And last, once again, my first post was not in seriousness,( the one in which you went all ballistic on), OTHER than the PCness must be equitable part, so you’re ranting about something I was being a smart aleck, not serious about anyway. Sheesh ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/216 "2004-12-24T21:11:18Z")
It’s people like owlstretchingtime that give Brits a bad name. As an Englishman myself all I have to say is He’s a total wanker. _Happy holidays_ is quite harmless. And _nobody_ in the UK (other than this moron) would say Happy Christmas. It’s Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year (as in the States.) ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/217 "2004-12-24T21:20:01Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > It’s people like owlstretchingtime that give Brits a bad name. As an Englishman myself all I have to say is > > He’s a total wanker. > > _Happy holidays_ is quite harmless. > > And _nobody_ in the UK (other than this moron) would say Happy Christmas. It’s Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year (as in the States.) I wonder how the “merry” part of it came about. Don’t we say “happy” for most other holidays? “Happy Halloween” (My FAVORITE holiday btw :D), and the 4th of July (for Americans), Happy Valentines Day, ummm… Happy Memorial Day… Aren’t most of them happy holidays? Except Easter, what do people say for Easter? Have a Nice Easter? I can’t think of many other holidays that don’t use Happy. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/218 "2004-12-24T22:47:45Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > It’s people like owlstretchingtime that give Brits a bad name. As an Englishman myself all I have to say is > > He’s a total wanker. I just suspected owl started slugging back the eggnog too early, getting into the spirits and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/220 "2004-12-25T05:12:40Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > And _nobody_ in the UK (other than this moron) would say Happy Christmas. Unless they’re singing a John Lennon tune. 'Course that’s technically “Happy Xmas”. ---
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145/221 "2004-12-25T11:34:58Z")
Blimey you are a sensitive lot aren’t you? Boxes of frogs barely comes into it. Even the Hatter’s union wouldn’t let some of you lot in. And to the webbed-toed idiot in Pompey - I may be a wanker but I don’t have the misfortune to live in the most inbred part of the country - burnt out any paediatricians recently? When people from Southampton look down on you, there really isn’t any hope Owl - A Winchester lad so knows what he’s talking about, and is about to go back to playing with the monster robot toys… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-in-the-usa-actually-say-happy-holidays/281145.md?page=12)