# Does anyone know what the deal is behind the recent East Asia trend, especially in media? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638 "2024-01-05T11:05:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/41 "2024-01-28T16:15:29Z")
As I said in a previous post, you’re worried because an area where over half of the world’s population lives finally getting recognized by people in other parts of the world? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/42 "2024-01-28T17:05:16Z")
Hey, it was on _Tucker Carlson_! Closure for sure! Confirmation! Definitely. Not in the ways the OP thinks but for sure and definitely. 🙄 😀 Never let the simple economics answer suffice when there is a conspiracy and a controlling cabal to be imagined. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/43 "2024-01-28T17:06:53Z")
> [@neitherscout](#): > > it also fits well with the whole anti-white agenda of the US establishment. As a white American, I must have missed this, and much like your thesis in the OP I don’t agree that it exists. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/44 "2024-01-28T17:53:57Z")
> [@neitherscout](#): > > I am just the kind of person who doesn’t like being manipulated by people in power Meh. You clearly like being manipulated. Whether or not and how much power they have is a matter of debate. I heard _confirmed_ that Carlson is a representative of the cabal of lizard overlords who manipulate everyone. Except their bosses: the dolphins. Who thanks us for the fish. Notably neither of those groups are white so there you have it! Closure! ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/45 "2024-01-28T18:38:19Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > e.g **If you go to YouTube as a fresh unknown user (hard to do)** and pull up dance videos and click predominantly on ones features black performers which vids represent maybe 20% of the total offered, pretty soon black dance vids will be 75% of the total offered. YouTube still has all 500 million vids in the same ethnic mix as before. But the 20 or 100 they show you when you search for “dance videos” will be heavily biased towards the kinds they knw you clicked before. And of course when 75% of the vids you’re offered have black dancers, guess what happens to your watching history? It gets blacker and blacker. Not at all, a separate browser, not logged on, in private viewing mode, every time I open that browser I’m a brand new YT user. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/46 "2024-01-28T20:27:27Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > > [@neitherscout](#): > > > > it also fits well with the whole anti-white agenda of the US establishment. > > As a white American, I must have missed this, and much like your thesis in the OP I don’t agree that it exists. It is part of the Green New Deal for alternate power sources. If you contact a white to an anti-white it produces an enormous amount of energy. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/47 "2024-01-28T21:08:55Z")
> [@neitherscout](#): > > anti-white agenda of the US establishment That’s amazing, given that the U.S. establishment is 80% white: > **[Faces of Power: 80% Are White, Even as U.S. Becomes More Diverse (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/09/us/powerful-people-race-us.html)** > > See the 922 faces of power behind Hollywood, the justice system, big businesses and more; 180 of them identify as Black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, multiracial or otherwise a person of color. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/48 "2024-01-29T06:37:29Z")
All the crazy “anti white” conspiracy crap aside, there is, at least according to the US government, of course some kernel of truth to the Chinese government investing in influencing other nations’ media. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us-accuses-china-global-media-manipulation-2023-09-28/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us-accuses-china-global-media-manipulation-2023-09-28/) Also FWIW China has invested heavily in Hollywood and Hollywood has been eager to do well in the Chinese market. Right now though Hollywood is not doing so well there, facing stiff competition with China’s homegrown movie industry. > **[Why China Has Lost Interest in Hollywood Movies](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/23/business/china-box-office-hollywood.html)** > > No American films ranked among the 10 highest grossing in China last year as viewers who once flocked to foreign blockbusters continued to disappear. Asian faces is less the point there than Chinese political propaganda and favorable points of view. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/49 "2024-01-29T12:39:10Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Asian faces is less the point there than Chinese political propaganda and favorable points of view. I think that’s slightly harsh. Mostly it’s just somewhat different tastes…favourable points of view makes it sound all political. Yeah there are some movies that have Chinese propaganda or selling some ideal of Chinese life, but most aren’t like that, they’re just movies. (Incidentally, one of the most jingoist Chinese movies I’ve seen was wolf warrior 2 and it’s actually a really good action movie in spite of this) And, as hinted in the article you linked (which was an excellent summary), there’s an irony here: Hollywood turned towards special-effects heavy blockbusters as those were easiest for all cultures to enjoy, but finds itself poorly positioned in both the east and west as audiences in both markets have tired of watching a CGI muscle man punch a CGI monster. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/50 "2024-01-29T16:10:18Z")
Propaganda does not imply a movie designed to focus on jingoism. It’s often small. The character change in Doctor Strange for Tibetan to Celtic. So on. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/51 "2024-01-29T16:35:33Z")
I know, I’m just saying that when we’re talking about films made in China for Chinese audiences, and in the context of why these movies are starting to push out Hollywood, we’re mostly talking about the different cultural touchpoints / aspirations etc between the markets. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/52 "2025-08-24T02:07:34Z")
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