# Does anyone sell catsup these days? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 17, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738 "2019-02-17T22:29:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/21 "2019-02-18T17:21:34Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Can you define updog? Nothing, what’s defined up… with…um… Casting! Who sent the understudy? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/22 "2019-02-18T17:36:07Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Salsa also gets moldy sooner than ketchup… so you end up throwing more of it out. What? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/23 "2019-02-18T18:05:20Z")
Camden’s Catsup, made in Oregon and spelled the old fashioned way. > **[Amazon.com : Camden's Blue Label Catsup (3-Pack) : Grocery & Gourmet Food](https://www.amazon.com/Camdens-Blue-Label-Catsup-3-Pack/dp/B010TVRRQO)** > > Camden’s Blue Label Catsup is an award-winning ketchup made in Portland, OR. We only use high quality, all-natural ingredients, without any fillers or high-fructose corn syrup. Camden’s contains the powerful antioxidant lycopene, and our chili pepper... ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/24 "2019-02-18T18:08:17Z")
Hunt’s Catsup was the first thing that came to mind for me. Google reveals that they do now call it Ketchup. I didn’t realized they had changed it. I guess because I’ve always bought either Heinz or the store brand. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/25 "2019-02-18T18:15:46Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Hunt’s Catsup was the first thing that came to mind for me. Google reveals that they do now call it Ketchup. > > I didn’t realized they had changed it. I guess because I’ve always bought either Heinz or the store brand. Hunt’s changeover appears to have been at least 40 years ago, in fact. The links I posted earlier illustrate that Hunt’s used the word “catsup” through the 1960s, but [this image, of a commemorative Hunt’s bottle which is pretty clearly for the 1976 bicentennial](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/9c/83/cf9c83dca1034b4260e9ff3abeb15050.jpg), shows that the name has already been changed to “ketchup.” ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/26 "2019-02-18T19:12:41Z")
I hope this isn’t a hijack but I read somewhere that Ketchup was originally a kind of fish sauce. Does anyone still sell that kind of ketchup? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/27 "2019-02-18T21:03:11Z")
All I know is, if I ever opened a restaurant, I’d haw two bottles - one labeled catsup, and one labeled ketchup. And then I’d see which emptied faster. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/28 "2019-02-18T21:11:17Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > I hope this isn’t a hijack but I read somewhere that Ketchup was originally a kind of fish sauce. Does anyone still sell that kind of ketchup? …you could read that in the second sentence of Wikipedia! > **[Ketchup](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup)** > > Ketchup or catsup (/ˈkɛtʃəp, ˈkætsup, ˈkɑːtʃəp/) is a table condiment with a sweet and sour flavor. The unmodified term ("ketchup") now typically refers to tomato ketchup, although early recipes for various different varieties of ketchup contained mushrooms, oysters, mussels, egg whites, grapes or walnuts, among other ingredients. > Tomato ketchup is made from tomatoes, sugar, and vinegar, with seasonings and spices. The spices and flavors vary, but commonly include onions, allspice, coriander... > [@](#): > > …Originally, recipes used egg whites, mushrooms, oysters, mussels, or walnuts, among other ingredients… I’ve certainly seen other fancy non-tomato sauces called “ketchups” in restaurants, but I’m not sure I recall seeing any commercial product that isn’t the tomato kind. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/29 "2019-02-18T21:17:46Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > To the people who called ketchup “tomato sauce”: > What do you call the red sauce you use to put over pasta? Please don’t say “red sauce”… I remember calling ketchup “tomato sauce” many years ago when a kid in the U.K., and I don’t recall ever needing to distinguish what you put on pasta since that was not something we ate. I’m not advocating it as sensible terminology given the range of actual food that turns out to be available in the world - it was just what we called it. Available condiments were tomato sauce, brown sauce, salt, vinegar; maybe mint sauce on a Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/30 "2019-02-18T21:25:30Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > I’ve certainly seen other fancy non-tomato sauces called “ketchups” in restaurants, but I’m not sure I recall seeing any commercial product that isn’t the tomato kind. Browsing Google shopping, there are at least two–[one made with mushrooms](https://www.google.com/shopping/product/6840398273077821637?client=firefox-b-1&biw=1408&bih=703&q=ketchup+-tomato&oq=ketchup+-tomato&prds=paur:ClkAsKraX86gPkwcmApgitgvnjam_mg7A97Ys5vbIzIl14nV6YKFm2_yG3XshM3dJRGgVLkks2uHYEOgLoXv_OSH2hMUl7KPJ27GWA9X-PTXVNJ8iWYJBypTAxIZAFPVH73DUXofo8PMCak5h1Yld85aeiec3w&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiIs7CGmsbgAhVL8IMKHZT9CyAQ8wIItAM), [one with bananas](https://rubiesintherubble.com/products/banana-ketchup). ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/31 "2019-02-19T00:44:24Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Can you define updog? Yes, it’s a processed form of thedealbro ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/32 "2019-02-19T01:33:32Z")
> [@california\_jobcase](#): > > Brooks catsup and Plochmann’s mustard used to be two products I’d bring back to south Georgia from visits to Indiana. Brooks was the best! I haven’t had it in a while, though. Plochman’s (one n) makes a stone-ground brown mustard that is the bee’s knees. I keep that around now along with the regular yellow, which is indispensable for making a Chicago-style hot dog. ---
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> [@BwanaBob](#): > > To the people who called ketchup “tomato sauce”: > What do you call the red sauce you use to put over pasta? Please don’t say “red sauce”… Marinara, lot’s of Italians settled in Melbourne so we were introduced to the word early. I would assume in areas with large Italian populations in NY etc would still call it Marinara. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/34 "2019-02-19T03:41:55Z")
I prefer chili sauce. Yum! 🆒 ---
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> [@furryman](#): > > I hope this isn’t a hijack but I read somewhere that Ketchup was originally a kind of fish sauce. Does anyone still sell that kind of ketchup? In the meantime until you find some, you can always mix a dash of fish sauce into a quantity of some other ketchup. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738/36 "2019-02-19T06:34:15Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Can you define updog? Certainly. Updog is a yoga pose, [_ūrdhva mukha śvānāsana_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdhva_Mukha_Shvanasana)—more formally known as the upward-facing dog pose. ---
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> [@Riemann](#): > > I remember calling ketchup “tomato sauce” many years ago when a kid in the U.K., and I don’t recall ever needing to distinguish what you put on pasta since that was not something we ate. What! No pasta?! :eek: “Lord, have mercy on the people in England…” ---
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> [@BwanaBob](#): > > To the people who called ketchup “tomato sauce”: > What do you call the red sauce you use to put over pasta? Please don’t say “red sauce”… It’s exclusively Tomato Sauce in South Africa (it may say “Ketchup” on the Heinz bottle, but you’d get funny looks if you call it that) and we call the pasta sauce “pasta sauce”, or “tomato pasta sauce” if we need to distinguish it. ---
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> [@Riemann](#): > > Available condiments were tomato sauce, brown sauce, salt, vinegar; maybe mint sauce on a Sunday. No Worcestershire sauce? Heresy! ---
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Pasta certainly is common in the U.K. I lived there from 1987 to 1990 and have visited it a dozen times since then, including just last year. There are a fair amount of Italian restaurants. Here’s a chart of pasta sold in U.K. supermarkets: > **[Leading 'Pasta And Noodles (Fresh Or Dried)' brands in GB 2021 | Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/302842/leading-brands-of-pasta-and-noodles-in-the-uk/)** > > Leading brands of 'Pasta And Noodles (Fresh Or Dried)' in Great Britain based on the number of consumers are 'Tesco' with 7,822,190 consumers, followed by 'Aldi' with 5,035,350 consumers and 'Sainsbury's' with 4,894,020 consumers in 2021. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-sell-catsup-these-days/829738.md?page=3)