# Does BET own MTV?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 6, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515 "2013-02-06T20:06:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![juck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90db22/32.png) [@juck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/juck)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/1 "2013-02-06T20:06:17Z")

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Has anyone noticed that white people have almost been phased out on MTV?

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/2 "2013-02-06T20:12:05Z")

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They’ve fled to the suburbs of USA and the Lifetime networks.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/3 "2013-02-06T20:12:50Z")

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MTV Networks is a Viacom property. BET is a rarity in broadcasting: an independently-owned cable channel.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/4 "2013-02-06T20:15:08Z")

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[I know, right? Where the white women at?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15977850#post15977850)

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/5 "2013-02-06T20:16:11Z")

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**Juck** , What is it with you and Black people today? [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=681475) :dubious:  
ETA: **MOL** , ninja’d me!

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**Author:** ![juck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90db22/32.png) [@juck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/juck)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/6 "2013-02-06T20:18:37Z")

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just curious. Every day I have new questions about life. today its race.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/7 "2013-02-06T20:19:19Z")

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I noticed it in the early 1990s. But it’s OK, we still have VH1. (I think. Let me check real quick.)

What the… _Love and Hip Hop_? _Black Ink Crew_? _Basketball Wives_? What is this shit? Last time I watched VH1 it was all Rod Stewart and Kenny fuckin’ G!

Okay, we need to march.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/8 "2013-02-06T20:21:20Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I noticed it in the early 1990s. But it’s OK, we still have VH1. (I think. Let me check real quick.)
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> What the… _Love and Hip Hop_? _Black Ink Crew_? _Basketball Wives_? What is this shit? Last time I watched VH1 it was all Rod Stewart and Kenny fuckin’ G!
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> Okay, we need to march.

They even used to run this program called VH1 Soul. Soul? I dunno, sounds kinda ethnic.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/9 "2013-02-06T20:21:41Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> MTV Networks is a Viacom property. BET is a rarity in broadcasting: an independently-owned cable channel.

Viacom also owns BET.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/10 "2013-02-06T20:44:19Z")

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> [@juck](#):
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> just curious. Every day I have new questions about life. today its race.

“Just asking questions” right? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/11 "2013-02-06T20:48:19Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> Viacom also owns BET.

You’re right; looks like they were acquired back in 2001. I really need to get with the times.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/12 "2013-02-06T20:48:32Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> Viacom also owns BET.

[Son of a gun.](http://www.viacom.com/ourbrands/medianetworks/betnetworks/Pages/default.aspx)

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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/13 "2013-02-06T21:28:59Z")

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Worst question ever? Or just in the top 10?

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/14 "2013-02-07T20:59:41Z")

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Well, since MTV stands for **M** inimizing whit **T** y’s **V** isibility and Viacom stands for Vanquish Instantly All White Overlord Mutha’s, I’m hardly surprised.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/15 "2013-02-07T21:06:58Z")

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[There Goes The Neighborhood (NSFW lyrics)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Xk70pPlmc)

Ice-T knew the score 20 years ago…

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**Author:** ![OneDay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c68b51/32.png) [@OneDay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneDay)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/16 "2013-02-07T21:09:55Z")

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> [@juck](#):
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> Has anyone noticed that white people have almost been phased out on MTV?

Never thought I’d see the day. I watched MTV as a teenager (remember the 80’s hair bands?) and not a black face on the channel back then, EVER.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/17 "2013-02-07T22:03:13Z")

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> [@colander](#):
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> Worst question ever? Or just in the top 10?

I guess we’ll have to wait until VH1 does the obligatory countdown special. _fingers crossed_

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/18 "2013-02-08T19:14:05Z")

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> [@OneDay](#):
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> Never thought I’d see the day. I watched MTV as a teenager (remember the 80’s hair bands?) and not a black face on the channel back then, EVER.

Well, there was J. J. Jackson.

And Michael Jackson. And Prince. And Morris Day. And Lionel Richie. And Rockwell. And Eddy Grant. And Whitney Houston. And Ray Parker, Jr. And Chaka Khan. And Tina Turner. And the Pointer Sisters. And Kool & the Gang. And Billy Ocean. And Stevie Wonder. And Eddie freakin’ Murphy, for chrissake.

But yeah, not a single black face until the 1990s.

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**Author:** ![piepiepie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/19 "2013-02-08T19:38:23Z")

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How can you say whites have been “phased out” of MTV when the Jersey Shore and Teen Mom have been their most successful programs the past few years? Yes they’ve been cancelled, but next man up? Buckwild. Come on man. White people acting badly has been MTV’s gig for years.

Now if you said VH1 I’d agree.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bet-own-mtv/649515/20 "2013-02-08T20:50:31Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> [I know, right? Where the white women at?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15977850#post15977850)

> [@Shakes](#):
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> **Juck** , What is it with you and Black people today? [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=681475) :dubious:  
> ETA: **MOL** , ninja’d me!

Little known fact: when that gets linked twice in one thread, the question becomes “Risky question:Would u date an albino woman with a full black child”

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