# Does Bush Favor Unemployment? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 29, 2004, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bush-favor-unemployment/252657 "2004-06-29T03:14:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bush-favor-unemployment/252657/81 "2004-07-02T22:07:32Z")
> [@Sam Stone](#): > > Why do you guys have to go out of your way to be obnoxious with the comments about “Those pesky things like facts” and all this? I have been quoting facts continuously, and I responded immediately to the current jobs report and admitted it was disappointing. No you haven’t. You lied beginning with your first post to this thread: > [@](#): > > You guys do know that the economy is currently creating jobs at near-record rates, right? **And that it has created millions of jobs in the last six months**? This has been repeatedly shown to be a lie, which you have yet to retract. **Eye. Log. Yours.** ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bush-favor-unemployment/252657/82 "2004-07-03T00:07:16Z")
> [@Sam Stone](#): > > Why do you guys have to go out of your way to be obnoxious with the comments about “Those pesky things like facts” and all this? Because you keep posting crap like this: > [@](#): > > Jobs created in March: 337,000. Jobs created in April: 288,000 Bush’s best approaches Clinton’s _average_, as noted. Yet you posted that as a refutation. Also: > [@](#): > > GDP growth is also up substantially. Manufacturing growth has been at over 7% this year. Either you really do not understand the difference between magnitude and rate, or you are simply blind to your own spin. If you fell down a well, caught hold of a brick, then a higher brick, what would you think of someone who yelled down at you that you were doing great? > [@](#): > > And the final nail in the coffin of your, “The economy isn’t doing so well” is that the fed had to raise rates on Wednesday to stave off inflation due to rapid growth. The rate had been at 1 percent, now 1.25. Big fuckin’ nail. Still way below what Bush even started with. Some of us remember double digits, and I’m not that old, either. > [@](#): > > Weaseling? I was agreeing with Jshore that his anti-Bush argument was a good point. How in the hell is that weaseling? The topic was your claim that he was performing classic pump-priming. Having been shown that he wasn’t, you deny that you even said it. You never seem to remember that all that anyone has to do is scroll up. > [@](#): > > And please show me where I said that this was all Bush’s doing? You haven’t said that. You continue to habitually misrepresent what you’re being told in a way that destroys the credibility of anything you do say, and your habitual middle-excluding hurts you almost as much. This is an example of you doing both in the same post. As you’ve also shown here, it’s equally habitual for you to misrepresent your own damn posts. In this example, you are trying strenuously to avoid blaming Bush in \*any \* way for a still-crappy economy. even if that takes thrashing around for a way to deny its crappiness. That does not mean that anyone who disagrees with that reductively-simplistic view holds the opposite reductively-simplistic one. Yet it’s everyone else whose knees are jerking. Actually, **Fear Itself** summarizes the situation more succinctly. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bush-favor-unemployment/252657/83 "2004-07-03T01:08:44Z")
> [@jshore](#): > > By 2010, if the expiring provisions are extended as Bush wants (and counting interest on the additional debt), the costs will top $500 billion per year. Just to do the math: You could give 10 million people $50,000 /yr jobs for that sort of money! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-bush-favor-unemployment/252657.md?page=4)