# Does Dubya's "military service" matter? Or his lack of actually.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 4, 2000, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-dubyas-military-service-matter-or-his-lack-of-actually/39730 "2000-11-04T20:50:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-dubyas-military-service-matter-or-his-lack-of-actually/39730/21 "2000-11-07T02:02:54Z")
Just to interupt you baseless Bush bashing… > [@](#): > > Drug Use > Gore has long admitted that he smoked pot, both during his stint in Vietnam and for a “brief while” after his return. He claims that it was only a few times. > Here again he seems to be lying. Former drug buddies of Gore’s have come forward to say that he was a heavy smoker, right up until his first run for Congress in 1976. In college, Gore was said to be hanging out in the basement of his dorm, getting high and watching TV most of the time. After his return from Vietnam, friends such as John Warnecke say that got high with Gore as often as 3 or 4 times a week, listening to Grateful Dead albums and talking about what they would do if they were president. “Al Gore stoned was a mix of expansiveness, melancholy and paranoia,” Warnecke said. > > – Drug Use Sources [http://www.realchange.org/gore.htm#drugs](http://www.realchange.org/gore.htm#drugs) Bush gets a little loose, Gore gets a little paranoid… Additionally, we already addressed the OP in David B’s thread. Basically, the jet that he flew (F-102?) actually killed more people state-side rather than in actual combat. None the less, Bush served relatively well before his planes were phased out of service. In fact, he was even promoted. Far from meerly passing time, he was actively involved within his service. Seeing how Bush had not other purpose for really being on the base and that he had already served more than the required service hours, his commanders really could not have cared less whether or not he even showed up. He still put in a decent amount of effort. Gore, on the other hand, left to attend law school. After flunking out, he went for divinity school. He flunked out again. Probably had something to do with that MJ. For the record in the Gore vs. Bush intelligence debate, Bush successfuly completed an MBA from Harvard. Gore never got a post-grad degree. Seeing that niether will release standardized test scores, we are basically without solid reference; who knows what Gore can do when not tokin it, maybe not even flunk out of divinity school. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-dubyas-military-service-matter-or-his-lack-of-actually/39730.md?page=1)