# Does Entourage get better after the 1st season? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 25, 2010, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352 "2010-01-25T11:42:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/21 "2010-01-25T20:09:47Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I I liked the episode when he went to the science fiction fan-con, and was treated like a huge celebrity for his _Viking Quest_ role. VICTORY! šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/22 "2010-01-25T23:03:22Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I used to like Jeremy Piven in the show, but I think his character just became too relentlessly assholish to Lloyd for me. At some point that kind of behavior stops being politically incorrect tweaking and starts to become genuine abuse. I do like his relationship with his wife and kids, though. Heā€™s a devoted family man, at heart, which is redeeming for his character. At risk of spoiling last season for you: Ari puts Lloyd on a 100 day provisional program to become an agent. During the course of the program, his abuse continues to escalate and his requests become more and more outrageous, including adding additional days to the probationaly period ā€œBreakfast Clubā€ style. The abuse reaches its peak with Ari becoming furious with Lloyd oever the phone when he gets rear-ended picking up Ariā€™s car for him. Lyoyd finally gets fed up, quits, leaves the car abandoned and accepts an offer with Josh Weinstein, Ariā€™s rival. By the end of the season, Ari has acquired the company Josh and Lloyd works for. In typical Ari fashion, he roams the halls with a paintball gun litterally ā€œfiringā€ everyone whoever crossed him. Later on, Ari calls Lloyd into his office, having missed him in the rampage. Lloyd assumes he is going to be fired but Ari reconciles with him in front of his staff and makes him a full-fledged agent. Although the banner is accidently mispelled to say ā€œCONGRATULATIONS! YOUā€™RE AN ASIAN!ā€ instead of ā€œAGENTā€. Now I suppose someone doesnā€™t really desearve much praise from finally not acting like a jerk after several years. But itā€™s still a nice ā€œhug it out bitchā€ moment. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/23 "2010-01-25T23:19:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The stuff I like best is stuff about Dramaā€™s career and his persistence in it. I liked the episode when he went to the science fiction fan-con, and was treated like a huge celebrity for his _Viking Quest_ role. I think that may be my favorite episode, with Turtle sending the three ladies to appease the geek journalist (played by Rainn Wilson, but clearly modeled on Harry Knowles) and ending at the U2 concert in which Bono gave a shout-out to Drama. Another favorite was the entitled ā€œOne Day in the Valleyā€ in which the boys drove to the San Fernando Valley for the Aquaman premiere, and befriended two pathetic high school nerds. (Also, Vince tries to have his ā€œAlmost Famousā€ moment".) ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/24 "2010-01-26T08:19:25Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I think that may be my favorite episode, with Turtle sending the three ladies to appease the geek journalist (played by Rainn Wilson, but clearly modeled on Harry Knowles) and ending at the U2 concert in which Bono gave a shout-out to Drama. I think thatā€™s still also my favorite episode. But ā€˜three ladiesā€™? - no sir, they are ā€˜the pussy patrolā€™. They lick ass by day and kick ass by night. šŸ˜ƒ I also have no idea what kind of strings the producers had to pull to get the U2 performance in the show, but Iā€™d like to know. For those that havenā€™t seen it, here it is: (turn up the volume) ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wuMA_nYOvvI/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/wuMA_nYOvvI?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/25 "2010-01-26T11:23:22Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > I also have no idea what kind of strings the producers had to pull to get the U2 performance in the show, but Iā€™d like to know. If Entourage taught me anything, itā€™s to show respect to Mark Wahlbergā€™s rolodex. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/26 "2010-01-26T13:11:42Z")
[Matt Damon getting in Vinceā€™s face, for the kids.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogqKj5rowbM&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/27 "2010-01-26T21:23:15Z")
I like the show a lot but if you didnā€™t like season one you wonā€™t like later seasons any better. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/28 "2010-01-26T21:29:08Z")
iā€™m curious to know if lady dopers enjoy sex&city more than guy dopers enjoy entourage. it seems only about 50%, if that, of dopers enjoy entouraaaaaaaage ---
**Author:** ![phreesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@phreesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phreesh)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/29 "2010-01-28T15:27:49Z")
If you didnā€™t like season one, Entourage is not for you. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/30 "2010-01-28T15:40:35Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > None of them, not even Vince, is especially good looking. Uhā€¦ what are you talking about? As far as Iā€™m concerned, the actor that plays Vince is one of the best looking men in Hollywood right now. That man is fookinā€™ gorgeous. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/31 "2010-01-28T15:51:31Z")
Maybe itā€™s just me then. I just donā€™t see him as leading man material. And especially not as the lead in a superhero movie (as he was in the Aquaman film). And certainly that doesnā€™t explain how Eric and Drama manage to get the women that they do. Or how Turtle landed Jamie-Lynn Sigler as a girlfriend. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/32 "2010-01-28T15:58:29Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Maybe itā€™s just me then. I just donā€™t see him as leading man material. And especially not as the lead in a superhero movie (as he was in the Aquaman film). > > And certainly that doesnā€™t explain how Eric and Drama manage to get the women that they do. Or how Turtle landed Jamie-Lynn Sigler as a girlfriend. Except for the fact that JLS is his girlfriend in real life. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/33 "2010-01-28T16:34:36Z")
That just amazes me to no end. How did that happen? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/34 "2010-01-28T16:42:51Z")
[Theyā€™ve already broken up.](http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/22/2009-12-22_sopranos_costarsturnedcouple_jamielynn_sigler_and_jerry_ferrara.html) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/35 "2010-01-28T17:13:05Z")
Yes, but in real life at least heā€™s a cast member on a top show. On the show, heā€™s just the pothead flunky of a B-list celebrity. Thatā€™s a little less plausible. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/36 "2010-01-28T17:53:06Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Except for the fact that JLS is his girlfriend in real life. Mrs Shibb thinks that Turtle (or the guy that plays him) is adorable. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/37 "2010-01-28T19:44:21Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Yes, but in real life at least heā€™s a cast member on a top show. On the show, heā€™s just the pothead flunky of a B-list celebrity. Thatā€™s a little less plausible. Yeah! Because all women - especially really good looking ones - donā€™t look beyond a guyā€™s job and his income when looking for mates. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/38 "2010-01-28T19:55:48Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Yes, but in real life at least heā€™s a cast member on a top show. On the show, heā€™s just the pothead flunky of a B-list celebrity. Thatā€™s a little less plausible. Except by the third season Turtleā€¦ becomes a fairly well respected manager to an up-and-coming rapper I stopped watching at the end of the third season, but even by the end of the first season, none of them are full-on flunkies to Vince. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/39 "2010-03-02T04:35:15Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Correction: > > [spoiler]Lyoyd finally gets fed up, quits, leaves the car abandoned and accepts an offer with Josh Weinstein, Ariā€™s rival. > > [/spoiler] You mean Adam Davies, the guy who ratted Ari out to Terrence. Josh Weinstein wasnā€™t involved in this. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352/40 "2010-03-02T15:24:18Z")
Not only is Entourage not any good, it isnā€™t even remotely entertaining. Itā€™s not even Sex & the City for guys - itā€™s easily much worse. However, it does have the best damn kick-ass theme song of any show of recent vintage: Superhero, by Janeā€™s Addiction. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-entourage-get-better-after-the-1st-season/526352.md?page=3)